The Lunar Whale: A Final Fantasy IV Mafia [Concluded]

[Quintus.JC]

Oooohhh he's 'armless, he swears. Well no one ever lied before in a mafia game. That cinches it. He's innocent folks.

Note how he said 'armless, not "harmless". I say hes an armless saboteur.

That was just an abbreviation, I was supposed to say harmless, anyway how can I kill people if I'm armless. Do you really think a mafia would be that dumb into attracting this much attention on himself this early on? People should know when I'm the mafia I was never like that.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So that begs the question;

Why ARE you attracting this much attention to yourself this early on?

Also, if I made a mistake and people pointed it out, one of my defenses would be "Do you really think I'd be THAT dumb?"

I suppose we can have the investigator check you out to see if you're clean, and wait until tomorrow to turn you into Quintus.JCrispy. I hate to waste a turn on that, though, seeing as you reek of scummy goodness. My vote stands as is. I suppose the other townies can decide your fate. As long as we dont waste an investigation, vigilante kill, or lynch by having two or more against the same person, I'm happy.

You just seem to be panicking at the thought of a lynch. I think this smiley looks like you:

[Quintus.JC]

Give me another chance... pretty please.

[shlin28]

What time zone are you in?

We still got more than 7 hours to interrogate you... so you better make up lots of excuses

[Quintus.JC]

What time zone are you in?

We still got more than 7 hours to interrogate you... so you better make up lots of excuses

My location is written on my location. GMT

[Askthepizzaguy]

Give me another chance... pretty please.

I think you're trying to convince me you ARE the saboteur now. There's no other explanation for this weak defense. I haven't been following your mafia games but I've been told by reliable sources that you're good. Better than this.

Sorry, Quintus. You know I say this with all due love and respect:

Burn the scumbag!

[Quintus.JC]

I think you're trying to convince me you ARE the saboteur now. There's no other explanation for this weak defense. I haven't been following your mafia games but I've been told by reliable sources that you're good. Better than this.

Sorry, Quintus. You know I say this with all due love and respect:

Burn the scumbag!

Good or not I've never been lynched in the first round. I'd hope to continue my good record, let the detective and the viglante have their share of work.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Good or not I've never been lynched in the first round. I'd hope to continue my good record, let the detective and the viglante have their share of work.

I'm flabbergasted. Are you trying to keep yourself alive for one more turn, or trying to help town win the game? You're talking about your record, which is a ego-serving and entirely off-topic red herring.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

By the way, have you heard about my duel record and my blitzmaster title?

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/conve...27925&u2=23872

Let's take our little chit-chat public.

If you wish to defend yourself, enlighten me. What was your strategy? Assuming you're clean, why would you help the mafia by telling them not to bother wasting kills on you? Assuming you're clean, why would you distract town by saying something so suspicious? Just plain old misspeaking? Or is there a sinister motive behind all this?

[Warmaster Horus]

Anybody who uses an angel with a halo in mafia games is trying to be too innocent.

Vote:Quintus.JC

[shlin28]

Good or not I've never been lynched in the first round. I'd hope to continue my good record, let the detective and the viglante have their share of work.

Bah, getting lynched on the first round is fun, I did it lots of times

The way I see it, you shouldn't have revealed yourself, as if the mafia attacked you you would have survived, and thus flummoxing the mafia, thus giving town a chance as they potentially waste another kill on you as they think you got some special role.

Thus, Unvote: Elite Ferret

But I'm not gonna vote Quintus.JC yet as I just saw WH's vote and I do not want to be the bandwagonner...

Edit: Spelling

[Quintus.JC]

So no second chance then?

[Thermal]

your severe want to be saved shows you arent noble and fearless, as a good townie should be, but i may give you the benifit of the doubt
vote:Caius
his shadowly figure and lack of interest in convosation is worrying, especially when no one else has pointed this out in the whole Quintus J.C scenario
tally

Quintus.JC, 3 votes (AskThePizzaGuy) (WH) (Glyphz)
Caius, 2 votes (FH) (aries)
AskThePizzaGuy, 1 vote (Elite Ferret)
glyphz, 1 vote (El Diablo)
Tiberius of the Drake, 1 vote (Quintus.JC)

[Quintus.JC]

Come on people, give me the benifit of the doubt and let the vigilante and the detective to decide wether I'm the mafia or not.

[Ferret]

I don't think QJC is guilty, while I was very impressed with ATPG's analysis I have been paired with QJC as mafia before and he didn't behave at all like this, then when he knew he was going to die he accepted it and admitted he was mafia and when he was alive he did not make up any reveals or make any false claims, but actually tried to help the town, posted good reasoning albeit leaving himself and I off because we were actually guilty, I urge you not to lynch him, he is not acting like mafia.

[Thermal]

there are only a few hours left, unless theres an extention if shlin, tiberius or caius are online, you might want to do your vote before the time expires...

[glyphz]

So... Other than Quintus, what other lead do we have?
Who would be a better Rnd1 lynch vote?

Quintus.JC, if you cannot put up a better defense, I cannot unvote you...
The only alternative I can think of is, to give us a name...

Who do you think is more deserving of getting lynched?
Who else should we be more suspicious of? Why?
So far, you voted for Tiberius of the Drake. Why do you vote against him?

[shlin28]

Vote: Quintus

I have heard enough

[Askthepizzaguy]

So far I see a very weak defense from Quintus, basically urging people to lynch him due to the lack of any case whatsoever. He doesn't even respond to my point that lynching him would waste a precious move, as he has already claimed thats ineffective. He has no other suspects.

Then I see a defense of Quintus by Elite Ferret. This makes me suspicious of Elite Ferret because it all boils down to: "I vouch for Quintus. Take my word for it. Have I ever steered you wrong?"

Sorry, EF, but I don't buy your arguments either. You cannot know if Quintus is innocent, so why are you defending him unless you're also a sabateur and you happen to know he's guilty? Private role reveals are not allowed.

I cannot change my vote, and I urge people to hang Quintus. Then I have to FoS: Elite Ferret for suspicious defense of the one known as QJC.

I really hope I am not wrong, because if I am... sigh.... town made a boo-boo.

[Askthepizzaguy]

hmmmm.... On second thought I believe there is a case to be made against Caius, as I argued with glyphs earlier last night, it would be the perfect place to sneak in a very unsuspicious character to be the second sabateur.

Why lynch just one suspect when we only have 3 nights, and on the final day the remaining player gets murdered anyway?

I call for a double lynch, Caius and Quintus. This will double town's chances of catching the scumbag, and it will NOT reduce their chances of winning at all by even one night. Work it out on paper.

This is the only instance where I would condone a double-lynch.

unvote: Quintus
Vote: Caius

Tally:
Quintus.JC, 3 votes (Shlin) (WH) (Glyphz)
Caius, 3 votes (FH) (aries) (ATPG)
AskThePizzaGuy, 1 vote (Elite Ferret)
glyphz, 1 vote (El Diablo)
Tiberius of the Drake, 1 vote (Quintus.JC)

[shlin28]

Do we even know we can have a double lynch?

[Askthepizzaguy]

usually in mafia games, if town is undecided between two top candidates, the moderator lynches both. I see no reason why he would not, unless of course, as in my game, all town ever did was double lynch.

But if Chaotix will rule on whether or not we can double lynch, that would be great.

[shlin28]

In most small games I have played if there is a tie there is an extension of 24 hours to decide which one gets lynched

[Askthepizzaguy]

Grrr....

That sucks. Maybe I should have done that for my game. Would have lasted longer that way.

Ok, well if we cannot double lynch, I'll keep my vote floating until I see the final score. Quintus is my top suspect and I don't want Caius to go down before Quintus does.

unvote: Caius

tally:

Quintus.JC, 3 votes (Shlin) (WH) (Glyphz)
Caius, 2 votes (FH) (aries)
AskThePizzaGuy, 1 vote (Elite Ferret)
glyphz, 1 vote (El Diablo)
Tiberius of the Drake, 1 vote (Quintus.JC)

[Ferret]

So far I see a very weak defense from Quintus, basically urging people to lynch him due to the lack of any case whatsoever. He doesn't even respond to my point that lynching him would waste a precious move, as he has already claimed thats ineffective. He has no other suspects.

Then I see a defense of Quintus by Elite Ferret. This makes me suspicious of Elite Ferret because it all boils down to: "I vouch for Quintus. Take my word for it. Have I ever steered you wrong?"

Sorry, EF, but I don't buy your arguments either. You cannot know if Quintus is innocent, so why are you defending him unless you're also a sabateur and you happen to know he's guilty? Private role reveals are not allowed.

I cannot change my vote, and I urge people to hang Quintus. Then I have to FoS: Elite Ferret for suspicious defense of the one known as QJC.

I really hope I am not wrong, because if I am... sigh.... town made a boo-boo.

APTG, I've played enough mafia games to not make myself look obviously guilty by defending a guilty looking person with no cause, after playing with him before I genuinely believe he is innocent despite having had no personal contact or anything, I think his role is the one he claims, he could even be an important pro town person that Chaotix didn't want murdered quickly so gave more lives. I don't know, my gut says he's innocent.

I'm gonna keep my vote on you just because I can't abstain, no reason other than that.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think that's a wasted vote, unless town wanted to lynch me this turn.

If you don't think it's Quintus, but you have no case against me, whom else would you suspect? If you don't try a little harder to build a case, that just seems suspicious to me.



That being said, I am not going to harass you about it. I already told you why.



unFoS: Elite Ferret

[Askthepizzaguy]

Time check:

Yesterday: 11:41
Today: 9:53

Hurry up, town. We have two lurkers who are likely to get WOC'ed

[shlin28]

What does that mean?

[Quintus.JC]

That was an inspiring speech Elite Ferret...

Okay in my defence:

-I voted Tiberius because I can't abstain, I voted for him because he obviously weren't getting lynched, so my vote wouldn't of made a difference anyway.

-I have made no personal contact with Elite Ferret, he is defending me because this isn't my normal pattern as mafia. He partnered me in a previous game which ended in mafia victory, both of us did relatively well and I wasn't as sloppy as in this game. I was also the mafia in Fenring's Soviet Mafia and got to the end without exposing myself too much. I'll make this clear: Elite Ferret and me had no contact at all about this game

-If I were the mafia then I'd probably get the worst mafia award or something, because this definitely isn't what a mafia is suppose to do, get notiched by everyone else and getting him as much attention as possible. In all my previoius games I kept a low profile or at least acted normal. This really isn't how I'd play if I was the mafia.

-I already made my reveal. If the town don't believe they can test it out, get the vigilante to murder me or set the detective to investigate me. I confessed my role to the whole crew and now you all want to lynch me without giving me a trial. Tryout my ability first then lynch me if you still think I'm the mafia.

-The bit about being a noble townie and not afraid of being lynched. I thought the whole point of the game was to survive till the end, whether you're townie or not. I don't see the point of myself just saying 'go ahead and lynch me because I'm just a simple townie and wouldn't make a difference' would help you people to believe me.

-I don't have any particular suspect because it's only the first day of the game, the only person attracted enough attention on themselves was me (with the bad reveal) and Caius (being the last one to board the vessel). With private reveal banned I don't think anybody else have any idea who the mafia is either.

People have accused me of lying about my reveal, so I urge you to spare me of this day and let the detective and the vigilante on me, the detective will find me innocent or unclear, and the vigilante will blast off an extra life off me but that shouldn't do much harm. Let me live through today and I'll prove my innocence.

Unvote: Tiberus the Drake
Vote: Caius

[Quintus.JC]

I'm not going down without a fight...

[Thermal]

i do think while atpg's analyze was detailed and clever, it may of been a little hasty, im beginning to see your point of view, i hope choatix will be here soon to stop our wait, which will probably decide how i vote from then on wards