High Profile Arrests Recently you may not have Heard About...

[HoreTore]

What business did people have outing Larry Craig in a mens bathroom? That guy didn't even have sex with anyone in that specific occurance, but there was still an inquisition that I approved of. Larry Craig solicited sex in a public restroom, was crucified for it and all of his dirty laundry was aired. This wasn't in his office, didn't involve an employee, but It was still used as a tool to get him. I found his actions to be disturbing and unethical as Ihave found the actions of Kilpatrick and Clinton to be disturbing and unethical. At least don't accuse us of double standards. Who do you think was leading the charge against Craig?

People had nothing to do with it in that case either. And I find it truly sad that people do these things. People should care about what they do for the nation, not what they do in their private lives. We employ them to serve us, nothing more. Who they choose to have sex with has nothing to do with their capability to serve us, and as such it's completely irrelevant.

Now, I may see a small point if an anti-prostitution crusader was caught buying a hooker or a gaybasher being gay or something like that, but still... Not much.

Havn't you ever seen the movie "Roadhouse" with Patrick Swayze? He walked into the backroom of the club, found an employee having sex with a girl on the table during his break and then fired the guy on the spot. We need to think about this as if they were not politicians, merely in a regular job what the punishment would have been. Then we can couple what the punishment would have been numerous federal offenses and I think the case can be made for removal from office.

That would probably not happen here. I've had sex at work myself, and I know of countless others who have, but I have yet to hear about anyone getting fired for it.

[ICantSpellDawg]

That would probably not happen here. I've had sex at work myself, and I know of countless others who have, but I have yet to hear about anyone getting fired for it.

If I were your boss and found out that you were having sex at work, particularly with one of your employees, you would be fired. Especially if you lied under oath about it. I wouldn't fire you if you had sex with the same girl outside of the office. I just don't get the "it's only a crime if you are being hypocritical about it" line. If you want to play that game: Clinton ran as a Baptist and was married in a Baptist church. I'm sure that people expected him to be faithful to his wife since he made an oath to her about the issue in public. I don't think that they should fire him for it if it wasn't in the office or with an employee, but it can be viewed as public hypocrisy. Maybe if you don't believe in or practice monogamy you shouldn't promise it to your spouse. Just get married in the state or leave the oath out of your ceremony.

[HoreTore]

If I were your boss and found out that you were having sex at work, particularly with one of your employees, you would be fired. Especially if you lied under oath about it. I wouldn't fire you if you had sex with the same girl outside of the office. I just don't get the "it's only a crime if you are being hypocritical about it" line.

Then I will be sure never to have you as my boss

[ICantSpellDawg]

Then I will be sure never to have you as my boss

You've made your point known - you don't believe that a boss should be able to inquire as to whether or not you have been having sex in the office with an employee - that their hands should be tied about the issue. I wonder how many would agree with that sentiment on these forums in an honest capacity without trying to be funny.

[Crazed Rabbit]

No, I do not think this is fair, because the fact remains that what he did was simply having sex with someone.

No, it wasn't that simple. He's a thug who stole money from the city, lied to a court under oath, and assaulted law enforcement officers (that's just off the top of my head). He came to power and retained it solely through race baiting.

CR

[HoreTore]

No, it wasn't that simple. He's a thug who stole money from the city, lied to a court under oath, and assaulted law enforcement officers (that's just off the top of my head).

Yes it is that simple, because the reason he did those other things, is because the US population is so ridiculous that they care about who he has sex with. If you didn't care about utterly irrelevant stuff, he would never have done that stuff.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Yes it is that simple, because the reason he did those other things, is because the US population is so ridiculous that they care about who he has sex with. If you didn't care about utterly irrelevant stuff, he would never have done that stuff.

You'd probably be cool with smoking weed, doing some coke or drinking in the backroom every once in a while?

[HoreTore]

You'd probably be cool with smoking weed, doing some coke or drinking in the backroom every once in a while?

My old boss supplied six-packs and pizza whenever we were working overtime, yes

But anyway, how can you even compare having sex with doing drugs?

Last time I checked, sex was legal, healthy and does not interfere with work. Coke, weed and alcohol are none of that.

@ Lemur: well, as long as you don't disturb anyone, noone is going to have a problem with it. Oh, and assuming it's not unhygienic, of course, like doing it in the soup bawls in the restaurant kitchen...

But still, I'm not sure if it's legal to fire you for having sex on the job anyway. I'll try to have a looksy in the employment laws and see if there is an answer...

[yesdachi]

Yes it is that simple, because the reason he did those other things, is because the US population is so ridiculous that they care about who he has sex with. If you didn't care about utterly irrelevant stuff, he would never have done that stuff.

Sex, and sex with a subordinate, and sex with a subordinate at work while you are a public servant is hardly “irrelevant stuff”. Read upon the guy he was a rotten thug of a mayor. Half of me thinks he should have been punished more but the other half thinks, you get what you ask for, and the people of Detroit voted for him TWICE! Maybe all the fools who voted for him should serve a day of his sentence with him.

[Lemur]

I find it very hard to believe that if I were living in Norway, and say I were a bartender, there would be no repercussions for me banging a waitress over a table. I just find that very difficult to envision.

Personally, I think pursuing politicians for sex is a silly thing to do. And I'm amazed that we waste police man-hours having detectives stake out public restrooms to stop teh gays from hooking up.

But I'm really, really happy Jack Abramoff is going to jail, and I'm glad Mister It's Not A Truck It's A Series of Tubes may go to jail, and I seriously hope William Jefferson goes down hard.

[ICantSpellDawg]

I find it very hard to believe that if I were living in Norway, and say I were a bartender, there would be no repercussions for me banging a waitress over a table. I just find that very difficult to envision..

But I'm really, really happy Jack Abramoff is going to jail, and I'm glad Mister It's Not A Truck It's A Series of Tubes may go to jail, and I seriously hope William Jefferson goes down hard.

I agree. I've wanted these guys out of their official capacity. A case can be made about an expensive case going forward about sex being unnecessary, but I support both of those in question. The only thing is that those cases are the official way of dealing with the indiscretion. They are similar to hearings that might take place at your employer for a similar offense, but on a bigger and more important scale.

[HoreTore]

I find it very hard to believe that if I were living in Norway, and say I were a bartender, there would be no repercussions for me banging a waitress over a table. I just find that very difficult to envision.

Well I was working at a store when I banged a co-worker in the storage room... The only thing that happened was that my boss started smiling and laughing whenever he saw one of us after he found out...

As I said, I've never heard of anyone getting fired for having sex at work, and yet I know of dozens of people who have had it.

the closest thing I can think of was when my company captain in the army used a few minutes of his "captains hour"(basically a monthly info meeting with the entire company by the company commander) to point out that sex at military facilities is forbidden and plead us to go outside the fence when we had sex after one of the barracks had turned into a semi-brothel...(one guy got his gf to conscript, they ended up in the same platoon and barracks, started doing the natural thing and then things just snowballed...) No reprimand though, just pointing out that we got huge discounts at the nearby hotel...

[Lemur]

Well I was working at a store when I banged a co-worker in the storage room... The only thing that happened was that my boss started smiling and laughing whenever he saw one of us after he found out...

Oh, I see, you had relatively discreet sex in a closet and the boss winked at it. That's a different bit of business. Heck, we had a couple meet, fall in love and get married on my crew back in NYC. That's just different from what it sounded like you were saying.

Remember that if your boss thought you weren't being discreet, or if your boss was utterly without sympathy, you might have been in trouble. I'm glad to hear it isn't just a free-sex jambalaya in Norway.