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Thread: Is the Human Race more prone to Altruism or Egoism

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    Default Re: Is the Human Race more prone to Altruism or Egoism

    Quote Originally Posted by Innocentius View Post
    I'm sorry, but you'll have to elaborate on that. It seems fetched out of thin air to me.
    We'll, I'd give up my life just as quickly for my adopted puerto rican brother as I would for my biological northern European brother. The disbelief in altruism is for young cynics who don't want to believe in it, in spite of evidence right in front of them. Some may rationalize their altruistic feelings as "biological and genetic selfishness", but in the end, you are dead so that another may live - I'd bet that most of the people "died for" were unrelated to the martyr.
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    Default Re: Is the Human Race more prone to Altruism or Egoism

    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    We'll, I'd give up my life just as quickly for my adopted puerto rican brother as I would for my biological northern European brother.
    What does that prove? In your mind they are equal; that one is properly genetically tied to you and that the other is only imaginary so apparently doesn't effect your behaviour, which only serves to prove that we strive to protect our loved ones (ie. our genes, superficial or not).

    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    The disbelief in altruism is for young cynics who don't want to believe in it,
    On the contrary, I'd say that the belief in altruism is for naive people who can't accept the fact that they are, after all, only acting in self interest.

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    in spite of evidence right in front of them.
    What evidence?

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    Some may rationalize their altruistic feelings as "biological and genetic selfishness", but in the end, you are dead so that another may live - I'd bet that most of the people "died for" were unrelated to the martyr.
    Yes, that's what I suggested in the hypothetical scenario described above. They're still members of your species, and you can, at least in your mind, benefit from keeping your own species as safe as possible. You and your genes come first; then friends, associates, co-workers etc; then your neighbourhood and/or community; then your culture and your people (however you define that); then your species. If we didn't have these pre-programmed thoughts on survival we wouldn't have gotten very far.
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