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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculu5 View Post
    just on a point of clarity; are we into the whole earth is 5000 years old business?
    The figure is usually closer to 10 000 years old, although it can range from 6000 - 10 000 in some cases.

    I personally do not know how old the Earth is since the Bible isn't specific about the age of the Earth. A few things must be noted, however:

    1. God can create things with age as He did with Adam & Eve (Ie: they were never babies). So even if the Earth is old, that does not necessarily mean that Earth has actually existed for the years of age which it contains.

    2. No one knows exactly how, and to what degree, the Earth was changed as a result of the damage from the great Flood (Ie: potentially causing artificial signs of age in all sorts of things as a result of damage from the great Flood), and other natural disasters.

    3. All the Darwinists 'dating methods' that they allege 'proves' how old things are, have been proven to be erroneous & unreliable; and believing in their accuracy requires faith in unprovable assumptions to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navaros View Post
    The figure is usually closer to 10 000 years old, although it can range from 6000 - 10 000 in some cases.

    I personally do not know how old the Earth is since the Bible isn't specific about the age of the Earth. A few things must be noted, however:

    1. God can create things with age as He did with Adam & Eve (Ie: they were never babies). So even if the Earth is old, that does not necessarily mean that Earth has actually existed for the years of age which it contains.

    2. No one knows exactly how, and to what degree, the Earth was changed as a result of the damage from the great Flood (Ie: potentially causing artificial signs of age in all sorts of things as a result of damage from the great Flood), and other natural disasters.

    3. All the Darwinists 'dating methods' that they allege 'proves' how old things are, have been proven to be erroneous & unreliable; and believing in their accuracy requires faith in unprovable assumptions to begin with.

    Nav....I am just wondering...

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    something tells me you have the natural talent to pull it off...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navaros View Post
    The figure is usually closer to 10 000 years old, although it can range from 6000 - 10 000 in some cases.

    I personally do not know how old the Earth is since the Bible isn't specific about the age of the Earth. A few things must be noted, however:

    1. God can create things with age as He did with Adam & Eve (Ie: they were never babies). So even if the Earth is old, that does not necessarily mean that Earth has actually existed for the years of age which it contains.

    2. No one knows exactly how, and to what degree, the Earth was changed as a result of the damage from the great Flood (Ie: potentially causing artificial signs of age in all sorts of things as a result of damage from the great Flood), and other natural disasters.

    3. All the Darwinists 'dating methods' that they allege 'proves' how old things are, have been proven to be erroneous & unreliable; and believing in their accuracy requires faith in unprovable assumptions to begin with.
    thank you for clarifying that. *scared*

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    Science has nothing to do with the popularity of evolution. People like to believe it because it means they have an excuse to ignore the Bible. Pure and simple. That's why you can argue all the scientific facts with an evolutionist and never make a dent.

    Oh, and did anyone around here hear the term PC before?

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    The author Ian Taylor has an extremely poignant quote about fruit flies in his Darwinism-debunking book, "In the Minds of Men".
    That wouldn't be the Ian Taylor who is widely lambasted for his sloppy reasearch which he puts down to his own sloppy memory , who after retracting what he claims then makes more claims based on more thorough research that he then has to retract because his sloppy memory meant that his new research was again suffering from his sloppy memory....
    or would that be an entirely different Ian Taylor who wrote "in the minds of men"

    Bloody hell Nav you just make it too easy to ridicule your views , you really must try harder .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignoramus View Post
    Science has nothing to do with the popularity of evolution. People like to believe it because it means they have an excuse to ignore the Bible. Pure and simple. That's why you can argue all the scientific facts with an evolutionist and never make a dent.

    Oh, and did anyone around here hear the term PC before?
    Sir...I aplaud you for honoring your chosen forum name in such a fashion.
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    Sir...I aplaud you for honoring your chosen forum name in such a fashion.


    Couldn't have put it better myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignoramus View Post
    People like to believe it because it means they have an excuse to ignore the Bible.
    People have been ignoring the Bible (or at least "interpreting" it) for thousands of years before Darwin ever came along.

    Similarly even if there were any evidence contradicting evolution it still would not be evidence to uncritically accept the Bible's version of events. We would simply be back at square one with an infinite number of untestable theories to choose from.

    I have never yet heard any convincing arguments against the Flying Spaghetti Monster critique of Creationism.

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    Call me crazy, or maybe just a religious softy, but I always rather interpreted the creation story(well, ya know, the 2nd one ) as a general parable about how God gave man life, and man turned from God. Rather than a specific and exact account of actual events. Plus, I was always a bit miffed that Cain suddenly got married, yet the only other people who had been created, if we are to take it literally and exactly, were his father and mother.
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