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    There had also been deportations from Judea to Babylon by the Persian Kings. Not sure who precisely, I believe it was Darius I.
    King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon conquered Jerusalem for the final time in I believe 586 BC, deporting all but the poorest of the people to Babylon. When Baylon fell to the Medes and the Persians, Cyrus permitted the Jews to return to their homelands, but not all of them left, some finding it more profitable to stay where they had set up shop during the seventy-year captivity. I could recommend Ezra, Nehemiah, II Kings, and Esther, on this period. The Bible is a relatively thorough resource on the subject.
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    https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/...7/JewJitsu.jpg Jewish Spearmen should be like this.

    It would make sense for a unit like Jewish spearmen to have a (Relatively) wide AOR. As there were many of them in Syria, not just Jerusalem.
    I think EB's current recruitment works.
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    There had also been deportations from Judea to Babylon by the Persian Kings. Not sure who precisely, I believe it was Darius I.
    No, many Jews had been enslaved by Babylon when the area was conquered by them. When Persia came along and conquered Babylon, Cyrus freed the Jews (Cyrus also never employed slavery, he paid all of his workers because he was so rich). He is considered the only gentile to be called "Messiah" (Savior), I believe.
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    I love the Jewish Spearmen, they are great for protecting the flanks of my phalanx.

    Offtopic a bit, but after a bit of a break i'm finally getting back into EB (1.1 woohoo!) and I wanted to know which provinces you can recruit the Jewish Spearmen in? Also, is it still possible to recruit Galatian Auxillaries in every province from Galatia in the West, to Babylon in the East, and Sudan in the South? It was always really annoying that every battle I fought in my Sabean campaign involved fending off army after army of fearsome naked Galatians and those awesome Galatian swordsmen. Besides getting my ass kicked more times than not, I felt like that I had to plan my strategies more around fighting Gauls than trying to fight Phalanx armies...
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    Why people like Jews here?
    In every other place on the internet people can't stand them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leviathan DarklyCute View Post
    In every other place on the internet people can't stand them.
    Huh? What kind of websites do you visit? NSM (Nationalist Socialist Movements)? Most people are fine with Jews and the ones that aren't get smacked on the head by ADFL (Anti-Defamation League).

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    My girlfriend is Jewish. You know what they say...

    Once you go Jewish, you never go back. ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leviathan DarklyCute View Post
    Why people like Jews here?
    In every other place on the internet people can't stand them.
    people do not "not stand" the jews. Jews are nice. It's this freaky Anti-Defamation League, behaving like the holy inquisition, prohibit all even constructive criticism or generally all "dark doings" ^^ that do not fit the opinion of the STATE of Israel (not the jewish religion) and interfering state business of other countries.

    And: dear ADFL... what happend in WWII was TERRIBLE ans should never be forgotten, but this was 60 years ago, stop try making young and noninvolved people still feel guilty about that.


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    Don't discuss Israel and zionism and stuff here. We have a Backroom for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodotos I View Post
    The Bible is a relatively thorough resource on the subject.
    LOL! Sorry to bust your balls here, but the bible is in no way a historical document. You cannot rely on it to learn history... or much anything, really. To quote Penn Jilette: "the bible contains equal amounts of truth, history and pizza".

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking View Post
    LOL! Sorry to bust your balls here, but the bible is in no way a historical document. You cannot rely on it to learn history... or much anything, really. To quote Penn Jilette: "the bible contains equal amounts of truth, history and pizza".
    First of all I'm not a Christian, nor am I an apologist, but though the Bible is mostly BS it does contain some even useful reference to historical events, like the one given by Mein Panzer in the beginning of this thread. However, trying derive historical truths about events that happened too long a time ago (such as the Exodus and Moses) based purely on the Bible is generally useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeibek View Post
    First of all I'm not a Christian, nor am I an apologist, but though the Bible is mostly BS it does contain some even useful reference to historical events, like the one given by Mein Panzer in the beginning of this thread. However, trying derive historical truths about events that happened too long a time ago (such as the Exodus and Moses) based purely on the Bible is generally useless.
    If there are sources outside of the bible, then use them instead. Your example of Moses and the exodus is great, since archaeology has proven that it never happened.

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    And when there aren't the Bible is a wonderful resource to help interpret archaelogical evidence. It was the biblical references to Ararat (the kingdom rather than the mountain) that helped to discover the lost civilisation of Urartu in Armenia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking View Post
    If there are sources outside of the bible, then use them instead. Your example of Moses and the exodus is great, since archaeology has proven that it never happened.
    How can archeology prove that Moses and Exodus never happened? Because the jews definetly were slaves to egypt who then had an exodus and went to israel.

    The bible is an historical text, and there's much about ancient civilisation that would be unknown if not for the bible. There is however a lot of symbolism that needs to be interpretted in order to fully understand the bible.

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    How can archeology prove that Moses and Exodus never happened? Because the jews definetly were slaves to egypt who then had an exodus and went to israel.
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    Well actually, there's archeological evidence to support the sea opening a path for the jews. There's actually a book that explores the truths of the old testament with numerous archeological and geological findings. I remember it said that various egyption chariots, weapons and debris was found, preserved in the mud of the seabed, evidence that some sort of pursuit of the jews did take place. My memory of it is quite foggy, but I think the book also explains of how a volcano eruption (or was it meteorite?) caused a huge disturbance in the tidal patterns and how this could have possibly lead to the sea receding.
    I should dig this book up and find out what it says. Please note that it's a book that looks at the archeological and geological facts and is not one that finds workarounds for the bible story to be able to fit into modern day science.

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