Cowards with guns

[Crazed Rabbit]

MOUNT OLIVE -- It was just after 7 p.m. Thursday on West Main Street, a typically quiet stretch in Mount Olive.

Sharon Kulers heard her Dalmatian barking outside, so she made her way to the back yard.
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Durham, a 2-year-old 45-lb. Labrador retriever.

She saw a Mount Olive Police Department cruiser pull up to the house behind hers.

Then she noticed the shotgun in one of the officer's hands, aimed at her neighbor's 45-pound Labrador retriever.

"I said, 'Please don't shoot that dog. He won't hurt you,'" Mrs. Kulers said.

The officer looked at her, then back at the dog.

A shot rang out -- then, another.

"I said, 'Why did you have to do that? You didn't have to do that,'" Mrs. Kulers said. "He said, 'It showed its teeth.' He said, 'We have a right to do this.'"

http://www.newsargus.com/news/archiv...t_vicious_dog/

I'm sick and tired of certain police officers who seem to think they can react with deadly force whenever they feel the least bit threatened, and the system that lets them get away with it.

CR

[HoreTore]

This is why we don't let them near guns here

[PanzerJaeger]

This is why we don't let them near guns here

Umm ya.. it was funny on Reno 911, not so much in real life.

[Fragony]

Why would anyone shoot a dog, the kindest creatures there are. This is sick happy hunting.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Why would anyone shoot a dog, the kindest creatures there are. This is sick happy hunting.

Dogs aren't kind when strangers are approaching their turf.

"Some people view their pets as children, and I am one of those people."

Usually the people with this attitude are the people with the least well trained dogs...mind you most people haven't trained their dogs well. I assume the officer had had a bad experience but he must be a huge nancy.

The article is ridiculously melodromatic.

[KarlXII]

The article is ridiculously melodromatic.

Yes, the paragraph quoted sounds like it should've ended in "He then put the now severely hurt dog into a meatgrinder, crushing his remains to fill his power hungry stomach, maybe, just maybe, a symbol of America."

[Kralizec]

"any time an officer feels threatened, they have the right to respond to that."

There is something awfully wrong with this mindset

[Husar]

So, who of you told the police that the dogs were allied to the octosquids?
No wonder they are afraid...

I agree about the minefields, yesdachi.

[HoreTore]

Umm ya.. it was funny on Reno 911, not so much in real life.

Works out great here

[Louis VI the Fat]

[off-topic]

It was just after 7 p.m. Thursday on West Main Street, a typically quiet stretch in Mount Olive.

Sharon Kulers heard her Dalmatian barking outside, so she made her way to the back yard.

Those lines read like sheer poetry to me! America is so romantic.

Guns don't kill people, lack of a poetic mind does! In an agonisingly slow, fading away into oblivion kind of way.

Dang it! I need to travel America coast to coast, on foot, and write my Great American novel!

[Ser Clegane]

I don't get it - the dog [...] even "lunged" at one of them but OTOH the dog was too far away to spray with mace

Am I missing something here?

[Fragony]

These guys have a tiny bit more power then they should have. 'The Police' should be send home anyway they are nothing but dissobedience-tax, private company can do 10 times as much for the same amount of money.

[Husar]

It's a dog...big deal...

Was the dog on a line?
Was there a fence or anything?

If the dog was running around loosely I could almost understand it, if not then that was pretty wrong and stupid, hard to say from the quoted part.

Louis is right about the poetry, the way the whole thing is described rivals shakespeareian description methods, I'm sure I will dream of Louis this tonight.

[yesdachi]

Sounds careless to me but I can only assume that the officer made the right call, after all they have been trained and carefully chosen for their role to protect and serve.

Why would a lady that is collecting sticks and pinecones call the police on a playful dog? It doesn’t sound like the dog cornered the stick collector, forcing her to take refuge in a trash can while calling the police to come and save her. That stick collecting troll had something against the dog and knew if she called the dog hating police that they would come and take care of the playful troublemaker once and for all. Durham knocked over her pinecone pile one too many times.

It would have been too hard to walk next door and tell your neighbor to keep the dog out of her yard? Neighbors can suck as much as retarded cops.

Moral of the story:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

invisible fencing works.

[Xiahou]

A 45lb Lab? Clearly it was a vicious animal that was so life-threatening that they had no choice but to shoot it.... even though it was too far away to use mace.....

Dang it! I need to travel America coast to coast, on foot motorcycle, and write my Great American novel!

Fixed.

[Ronin]

A 45lb Lab? Clearly it was a vicious animal that was so life-threatening that they had no choice but to shoot it.... even though it was too far away to use mace.....

Fixed.

what are they supposed to do?..."wrassle" it and control it? police officers are not expect neither would accept I expect to take those kinds of risks...I know I wouldn´t

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

what are they supposed to do?..."wrassle" it and control it? police officers are not expect neither would accept I expect to take those kinds of risks...I know I wouldn´t

Were they actually under threat? I don't think so. If there's a dog actually acting aggressive, charging in what you can realistically assume is an intent to kill, then maybe you're justified in shooting. In this case, the dog posed no threat to anyone.

[Reverend Joe]

what are they supposed to do?..."wrassle" it and control it? police officers are not expect neither would accept I expect to take those kinds of risks...I know I wouldn´t

So instead they shoot it like a berzerk grizzly. With a 12-gague pump shotgun. And it doesn't occur to anyone to just call animal control, the people actually trained to handle situations like this?

And it's spelled "Rassel."

[Rhyfelwyr]

How that policeman brought himself to shoot an innocent dog is beyond me. A cat maybe...

[Tribesman]

I'm sick and tired of certain police officers who seem to think they can react with deadly force whenever they feel the least bit threatened, and the system that lets them get away with it.

From someone who loudly supports the right to shoot people if they feel the least bit threatened .

If you have a dog keep it secure in your property , if you fail to act responsibly then don't moan when someone shoots the mutt .
Simple isn't it .

If the dog was running around loosely I could almost understand it, if not then that was pretty wrong and stupid, hard to say from the quoted part.

Read the comments from the Dalmatian owner for clarification .

[Xiahou]

So instead they shoot it like a berzerk grizzly. With a 12-gague pump shotgun. And it doesn't occur to anyone to just call animal control, the people actually trained to handle situations like this?

I hear these work pretty well:


The sensible thing to do would've been to wait for someone to show up with one of those to apprehend the animal. Had the vicious 45lb dog charged the officers, sure, you have to shoot it, but since it was apparently out of mace range, I don't think it was an imminent threat.

Let's go over this again- A neighbor hears a commotion, comes to look and sees the 45lb neighbor's dog barking at officers. She says 'Please don't shoot that dog. He won't hurt you,'... and they shoot the dog. The dog that they claim was out of the range of mace spray. Something doesn't add up here.

If the dog was roaming outside of the owner's yard, then the owner certainly bears some responsibility for what happened- but that fact alone isn't justification for the police to take free reign to do whatever they want.

[Prodigal]

Pretty much dislike all dogs with the exception of labradors, they're probably the friendliest, least threating dogs I've ever come across. They're used as guide dogs...No doubt because of their savage reputation as pit fighting killers.

In relation to the police, I remain amazed at the sheet they believe they can get away with, assaulting people because they don't like them, beating annoying children that own skateboards, tasering people infront of their children for absolutly no reason, pushing people off bikes...Most of the above seems to be the kind of spiteful nastiness you'd expect to see in someone having a really bad day or who was simply hung over. The thing is that imo if someone chooses to enforce the law then they should behave with bloody decorum & in a manner that sets them above those they are policing.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Another story of dog-shooting:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...073003299.html

As the police came in, Calvo said, they shot his 7-year-old black Labrador retriever, Payton, near the front door and then his 4-year-old dog, Chase, also a black Lab, as the dog ran into a back room. Walking through his house yesterday, Calvo pointed out a bullet hole in the drywall where the younger dog had been shot.

The police concluded in an internal review that they were justified in killing the dogs, of course. Funny how they always seem to find out that they were justified in whatever they did.

A good editorial on the incident.

CR

[Veho Nex]

Sounds like a jerk with a gun whos only doing it for kicks and giggles... What we need is police officers who actually do it to help people, not to use excessive force when ever they feel butt hurt

[JR-]

http://www.newsargus.com/news/archiv...t_vicious_dog/

I'm sick and tired of certain police officers who seem to think they can react with deadly force whenever they feel the least bit threatened, and the system that lets them get away with it.

CR

a disgrace, i hope the police officer gets officially bollocked.

[KukriKhan]

I guess we're finished then, discussing 'police over-reaction' or 'justifiable use of force'.

Thanks for all contributions.

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