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    Default Re: Should Georgia Be Admitted to NATO?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    Um, yeah, see, here's the problem — that's not how Russia sees it. And I doubt they will ever take such a benign view of NATO. Remember that the alliance was formed with the express purpose of containing the Soviet Union and responding to them militarily. That's a fact that is not lost on Russia.

    I seriously doubt they want to join NATO, and any attempt to get them in would end in bitter failure. That's just la-la fantasyland, man.
    Is it?

    2000 - Putin mentions his desire to join NATO
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...to-722225.html

    Gorbachev suggested it after the fall of the Soviet Union

    Yeltsin suggested it as well
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...51C1A967958260

    I guess I'm dancing around la-la fantasy land. With the expansion of the EU and eventual centralization of that state, the U.S. will no doubt look for a counterweight in the alliance that Canada simply can't provide. We could use that as an excuse to help create a central Asian union similar to the one the Russian Federation has been working on. I'm all about expanding security and helping nations rely less on military deterrence. NATO has provided an excuse for European nations to spend drastically less on defense. Russia is looking for security from China above all else and needs to realize that the west will be an ally; they are part of the west for craps sake.

    The whole deal is this - If someone was to say 70 years ago that European nations would be part of one superstate without violent annexation people would call you crazy - possibly in la-la land. It is possible and desirable to create a superstate in central Asia within NATO - with the practical purpose of containing China and India and promoting democratic, socio-capitalist expansion. It also wouldn't be bad to have a massive, functional state that holds massive energy reserves and a small population within the confines of NATO.

    It is necessary for security, it is desirable for both parties, and it is doable in the long term. Why is that fantasy land?
    Last edited by ICantSpellDawg; 09-28-2008 at 23:11.
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