The compassion of socialism.

[CountArach]

I dont need my money going to fund state programs. How bout that?

Enjoy living without roads.

[Strike For The South]

Enjoy living without roads.

Oh my my my. The Fed should do

-Maintain interstate highways
-Raise and pay military
-Regulate disputes between states
-Have an organization like FEMA

All else should be left to the states and even then they should have very little power. I guess I need to be more clear thats two of you guys.

[Koga No Goshi]

Oh my my my. The Fed should do

-Maintain interstate highways
-Raise and pay military
-Regulate disputes between states
-Have an organization like FEMA

All else should be left to the states and even then they should have very little power. I guess I need to be more clear thats two of you guys.

No regulation then? :)

P.S we had this system before, it was called the Robber Baron era.

[Strike For The South]

No regulation then? :)

P.S we had this system before, it was called the Robber Baron era.

As little as possible.

In an educated society the robber barons would not happen I will also play devils advocate and say the robber barons perpetuated the USA onto the world stage.

[Koga No Goshi]

As little as possible.

In an educated society the robber barons would not happen I will also play devils advocate and say the robber barons perpetuated the USA onto the world stage.

Strike, within the confines of the modern world, we have basically had this ideology be dominant for almost 30 years now. It's been deregulate, downsize (except the big inflations of gov't under Reagan and Bush, but those were mostly in defense areas so people don't seem to mind), even Clinton cut welfare and such. It hasn't worked in creating a free market utopia. Even the so called free market people never really want a free market, you can see that with Wall Street asking for a bailout. They want a crybaby free market with loopholes and illegal immigrant labor and tax benefits for outsourcing and no responsibility or accountability when they flop an industry or default on promised pensions. If we got rid of all the "wasteful" safety nets and combined it with all the people who've lost their retirement, investment accounts, and mortgages, we'd be looking at 1929 again. I just don't see how this can look like a good thing to you.

[Strike For The South]

Strike, within the confines of the modern world, we have basically had this ideology be dominant for almost 30 years now. It's been deregulate, downsize (except the big inflations of gov't under Reagan and Bush, but those were mostly in defense areas so people don't seem to mind), even Clinton cut welfare and such. It hasn't worked in creating a free market utopia. Even the so called free market people never really want a free market, you can see that with Wall Street asking for a bailout. They want a crybaby free market with loopholes and illegal immigrant labor and tax benefits for outsourcing and no responsibility or accountability when they flop an industry or default on promised pensions. If we got rid of all the "wasteful" safety nets and combined it with all the people who've lost their retirement, investment accounts, and mortgages, we'd be looking at 1929 again. I just don't see how this can look like a good thing to you.

The American government has descended into an oligarchy. How many times must I say this? America got sick at appomattox and died in 33.

[Koga No Goshi]

The American government has descended into an oligarchy. How many times must I say this? America got sick at appomattox and died in 33.

Descended into? Who do you think started this country? Oligarchs. Pennsylvania was a land grant to an English noble. Texas was a bunch of rich guys who insisted they wanted to take over all that land even though the government said no, that's Mexico, and brought a lot of poor landless farmers along with them. This is nothing new. What you propose would make it even worse. America would look like what you saw in "Titanic" again. Dirt poor and filthy rich. No in-between.

[CountArach]

As little as possible.

In an educated society the robber barons would not happen I will also play devils advocate and say the robber barons perpetuated the USA onto the world stage.

An educated society... without public education, right?

[Strike For The South]

An educated society... without public education, right?

states problem. Very little I learned has come through the public education system anyway and that is why I majoring in History and minoring in 2ndary education and Spanish. Dont assume Dundee

[CountArach]

states problem. Very little I learned has come through the public education system anyway and that is why I majoring in History and minoring in 2ndary education and Spanish. Dont assume Dundee

The states would be incapable of running a universal public education system (Especially because you have already said you want them to have fewer taxation powers) and it would lead to broad geographic inequalities. Consider North Dakota for instance. It has a smaller population that is far less dense than the North-Eastern region. This means that it has fewer options for corporations and mass industry that could allow for large levels of taxation income. This means that the amount of money it could put into the education system per student is far lower than that of New York, which in turn means their economy could not improve. This is why the Federal Government is there - to supplement the income of states so that parts of the country are not left behind.