The compassion of socialism.

**Kadagar_AV** · 10-06-2008, 03:07

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Why do you insist on yelling in bold? I prefer a government that is ruled by the people and the best way to do that is give the least amount of power and money. When citizens cease to be vigilant authoritarianism reigns.

Well, using bad words is not allowed on this forum... Sarcasm however is... That is a way of highlighting the sarcasm. I agree it sticks in the eye, but one has to use the tools handed...

panzer,

And what does the government reading emails have to do with.... well.. anything?

I have to explain it again? is it OK if I just copy and paste my previous post?

"if an american talks about "the ultimate affront to citizens" I can not help it.... If you make a volley, I will smash"

**Strike For The South** · 10-06-2008, 03:13

Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

Well, using bad words is not allowed on this forum... Sarcasm however is... That is a way of highlighting the sarcasm. I agree it sticks in the eye, but one has to use the tools handed...

panzer,

I have to explain it again? is it OK if I just copy and paste my previous post?

"if an american talks about "the ultimate affront to citizens" I can not help it.... If you make a volley, I will smash"

All I see is anti-americanism thank you for playing.

**Kadagar_AV** · 10-06-2008, 03:20

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

All I see is anti-americanism thank you for playing.

Once again, I can see that you are indeed a great thinker.

*I didn't highlight anything this time, I will let people use their imagination*

Seriosly though...

A) Drawing conclusions of a political system from ONE incident in ONE country is... Showing that deep minds have neen involved in the process.

B)

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**Koga No Goshi** · 10-06-2008, 03:23

Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

Once again, I can see that you are indeed a great thinker.

*I didn't highlight anything this time, I will let people use their imaginaton*

Seriosly though...

A) Drawing conclusions of a political system from ONE incident in ONE country is... Showing that deep minds have neen involved in the process.

B)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Thats actually one thing I like about the internet. It's tossing a lot of Europeans and Americans together in mixed environments. Fifteen, twenty years ago, people just bashed on anything Socialist like it was the absolutely worst run thing conceivable. But you would probably have a hard time convincing most Europeans that what they "really" want to do is privately pay for all thier own healthcare even if they can't afford it, and how terrible and awful their healthcare system is. That's basically what all Americans twentysomething or older grew up with being told over and over, that Europe was awful where you paid huge taxes and had SOCIALIST MEDICINE and had to wait 19 months in a queue to have a doctor look at your broken finger. I don't know anyone (personally) from Europe who thinks America's social systems are better.

**Kadagar_AV** · 10-06-2008, 03:38

Originally Posted by Koga No Goshi

Thats actually one thing I like about the internet. It's tossing a lot of Europeans and Americans together in mixed environments. Fifteen, twenty years ago, people just bashed on anything Socialist like it was the absolutely worst run thing conceivable. But you would probably have a hard time convincing most Europeans that what they "really" want to do is privately pay for all thier own healthcare even if they can't afford it, and how terrible and awful their healthcare system is. That's basically what all Americans twentysomething or older grew up with being told over and over, that Europe was awful where you paid huge taxes and had SOCIALIST MEDICINE and had to wait 19 months in a queue to have a doctor look at your broken finger. I don't know anyone (personally) from Europe who thinks America's social systems are better.

QFT

I will share a story from "socialist Austria".

I have a friend who just had a REALLY bad break up... basicly, he moved to Austria to live together with his girlfriend (an austrian)... He quit his job in Sweden, he sells his apartment.

5 days after he gets here, she breaks up with him.

He was in shock, did not eat the whole day, only drank vodka and smoked weed...

Now, to set something straight, my friend is normally the most responcible person ever, he never msoked weed, and he drinks very moderatly... However, the situation was.........

I helped him pack his things and stuff, and then we went out on the town to get him something to eat.

He fainted, totally passed out on the street. Suddenly he just crashed down, not breathing.

I called an ambulance and did some CPR (learned it in the army).

The medics was there within 5 minutes, they noted he was dehydrated, and they gave him an infusion...

Cost: 0€

How much would that bad breakup have costed in the US? Or some other capitalistic state?

When I was in the US, I hurt my ribs... I knew the injury was not that bad, however, the ambulance my friends called insisted I would go to the hospital and see the doctor, to get X-ray and stuff...

I was fine, just had a small crack on the ribbs, and got some pain-dampening pills...

I had pay what I earn in 5 months for an X-ray and some pain relievers...

So, basicly, I think europe has a better system than the US.

**Strike For The South** · 10-06-2008, 03:41

anecdotes do not make a very good case. Neither does saying "He drank allot till he died but he was responsible" Hell Im responsible to but If I go out tomorrow and drink 4 bottles of vodka in an hour Im not going to think "Hey Ive built up enough responsibility credits I can do this"

**Kadagar_AV** · 10-06-2008, 03:50

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

anecdotes do not make a very good case. Neither does saying "He drank allot till he died but he was responsible" Hell Im responsible to but If I go out tomorrow and drink 4 bottles of vodka in an hour Im not going to think "Hey Ive built up enough responsibility credits I can do this"

So... if a normaly controlled person gets into a very unusual situation, and it ends with him being hurt (by himself) than he is to blame?

Again, this is the most church-going-super-nice-guy ever...

he

up once, cause of the circumstances. Should he then also lose his house to pay for the bill?

Again, I dont advocate free healthcare for people who do NOT deserve it... like, again, fat people with heart problems or heroinists.

However, I believe the states responcibility is to look after the citizens. As long as the citizens honour the state.

**Strike For The South** · 10-06-2008, 03:26

Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

Once again, I can see that you are indeed a great thinker.

*I didn't highlight anything this time, I will let people use their imagination*

Seriosly though...

A) Drawing conclusions of a political system from ONE incident in ONE country is... Showing that deep minds have neen involved in the process.

B)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

We are no longer talking about the article but the merits of socialism. I have already stated that I hate my government and they are an oligarchy. We seem to have different views on government. Do you want to add something?

**KarlXII** · 10-06-2008, 05:00

Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

Once again, I can see that you are indeed a great thinker.

*I didn't highlight anything this time, I will let people use their imagination*

Seriosly though...

A) Drawing conclusions of a political system from ONE incident in ONE country is... Showing that deep minds have neen involved in the process.

B)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Sweden, Anti-Americanism, and Communism go hand and hand....and hand I guess