Serial Killer in Training

**Koga No Goshi** · 10-07-2008, 05:10

Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff

You are exactly right - I take it back

Watch a video of a centipede eating a mouse and you will lose a few hours of sleep. Those owners make this kid look fantastic.

This is a daily occurrence. The problem with his actions was the ownership issue.

Just out of curiosity, Tuff.... if it could be proven that they were no one's legal pets, would you have no problem with the video of soldiers throwing dogs/puppies off a cliff that surfaced on youtube awhile back?

**ICantSpellDawg** · 10-07-2008, 05:37

Originally Posted by Koga No Goshi

Just out of curiosity, Tuff.... if it could be proven that they were no one's legal pets, would you have no problem with the video of soldiers throwing dogs/puppies off a cliff that surfaced on youtube awhile back?

I don't like torture, waste or callousness when taking life. If someone was to feed dogs to an alligator It would upset me, but only because I keep dogs as pets. I'm sure that farmers get upset when they have to kill their chickens. I would hope that they would kill the animal first instead of feeding it alive, but it is not necessary. Do you get upset when someone feeds mice to snakes, or rabbits to wolves? What about when people feed cows or pigs to other people?

The thing about feeding crocodiles is that when they eat, they don't have to eat again for an excessively long time, unlike mammals. There really isn't "wasteful feeding". They store really as much as you feed them. The more you feed them the longer they can go until the next feeding.

I stand by my point that the theft was the crime the child should be punished for. They should also give him a crash course on being less callous when he takes an animals life if indeed that is what the camera shows.

Can I get an Amen, or is everyone here a vegetarian now?

**Koga No Goshi** · 10-07-2008, 07:13

Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff

I don't like torture, waste or callousness when taking life. If someone was to feed dogs to an alligator It would upset me, but only because I keep dogs as pets. I'm sure that farmers get upset when they have to kill their chickens. I would hope that they would kill the animal first instead of feeding it alive, but it is not necessary. Do you get upset when someone feeds mice to snakes, or rabbits to wolves? What about when people feed cows or pigs to other people?

The thing about feeding crocodiles is that when they eat, they don't have to eat again for an excessively long time, unlike mammals. There really isn't "wasteful feeding". They store really as much as you feed them. The more you feed them the longer they can go until the next feeding.

I stand by my point that the theft was the crime the child should be punished for. They should also give him a crash course on being less callous when he takes an animals life if indeed that is what the camera shows.

Can I get an Amen, or is everyone here a vegetarian now?

Eating another animal to survive is not immoral. I asked the question because you said earlier in the thread that, to you, it all comes down to ownership. That would open up a rather wide range of very cruel behaviors as acceptable, such as someone buying pets to torture them or kill them in unusual ways. I was just curious what your stance was on cruelty for cruelty's sake to animals.

**ICantSpellDawg** · 10-07-2008, 07:18

Originally Posted by Koga No Goshi

Eating another animal to survive is not immoral. I asked the question because you said earlier in the thread that, to you, it all comes down to ownership. That would open up a rather wide range of very cruel behaviors as acceptable, such as someone buying pets to torture them or kill them in unusual ways. I was just curious what your stance was on cruelty for cruelty's sake to animals.

Did all of my posts in which I've said that I was against the cruel killing of animals satisfy your curiosity?

I didn't see his actions as excessively cruel; at least any more cruel than the act of killing an animal to feed another could be. Wasteful or callous probably (although I'm sure the crocodile appreciated it).

I think that this case comes down to ownership. Had he tortured the animals before feeding them to the croc the case would have been about ownership AND cruelty to animals. A quick bludgeoning for an 8 year old is about as quick and to the point as it gets, I'll allow it.

**pevergreen** · 10-07-2008, 08:10

1. Its Australia. The outback as well.
2. Its the Northern Territory, just leave it.

**Husar** · 10-07-2008, 14:05

Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff

Watch a video of a centipede eating a mouse and you will lose a few hours of sleep.

Of course I went to Youtube and did that, won't lose any sleep over it but I think insects have something about them that makes me freak out a bit, perhaps their outer skeleton that makes them look so mechanic or something.

**ICantSpellDawg** · 10-07-2008, 15:02

Originally Posted by Husar

Of course I went to Youtube and did that, won't lose any sleep over it but I think insects have something about them that makes me freak out a bit, perhaps their outer skeleton that makes them look so mechanic or something.

Read about the physics of it. It cracks through the brain or enters through the mouth, dissolves the organs and tissue into a slurry and then slurps them out with a straw. It then leaves the bloody an empty, bloody husk that has been severed in half. Holy Crap.

**yesdachi** · 10-07-2008, 15:06

Originally Posted by Husar

Of course I went to Youtube and did that, won't lose any sleep over it but I think insects have something about them that makes me freak out a bit, perhaps their outer skeleton that makes them look so mechanic or something.

Well curiosity got the best of me and I must say that giant centipedes are truly creepy. I also clicked a link to watch a cow eat a chicken and a pelican eat a pigeon. I am thinking that if the kid had YouTube he wouldn’t have had to actually feed animals to the crock, he could have just watched other videos of animals eating animals to satisfy his curiosity.
Does YouTube = Serial Killer Prevention?

**Husar** · 10-09-2008, 00:11

Well TuffStuff, spiders have a very similar method to eat their prey so that doesn't surprise or shock me.
At that point the prey is usually dead anyway, the scary part is when that ugly beast with it's many legs, big claws etc. gets the prey and starts doing evil mechanic things to it until it's dead.

**Ja'chyra** · 10-09-2008, 10:04

Well I reckon the kids parents should be charged and the kid given counselling if not taken into care, he should also be banned from keeping animals for life.

I don't think Tuffs arguments hold water either the kid was obviously killing the animals for the sake of killing them, I reckon the whole feeding issue was just an added bonus for him. The argument about feeding your pets life prey is a bit suss as well as most pet owners will feed dead prey if at all possible.

The kid broke in and done something that he quite blatantly knew was wrong therefore he should be punished, as he's too young the parents should bear the brunt of the official punishment and flow down the kids own punishment.