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    Quote Originally Posted by woad&fangs View Post
    Conneticut this time....

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    I didn't even know they were debating it

    Anyway's it makes me happy. So what do you guys think? Is the # of legalizing states going to snowball or is it going to be confined to staunch blue states like the current 3?
    Debate??!!! No, No, No. That's not how it works anymore. They did debate it when they decided in favor of civil unions a few years ago in order to keep marriage between one man and one woman.

    The current decision was by the Supreme Court of the State who has decreed that the people of CT shouldn't have the power to decide things that the court has a strong opinion of.

    The only State to legitimately allow Gay Marriages is Mass. Others only allow it because the courts decided to overturn the law.
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    Debate??!!! No, No, No. That's not how it works anymore. They did debate it when they decided in favor of civil unions a few years ago in order to keep marriage between one man and one woman.

    The current decision was by the Supreme Court of the State who has decreed that the people of CT shouldn't have the power to decide things that the court has a strong opinion of.
    The thing is a vote of the people only trumps a state constitution when that vote adds an amendment. In this case it did not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m52nickerson View Post
    The thing is a vote of the people only trumps a state constitution when that vote adds an amendment. In this case it did not.
    Shame on them for thinking the amendment wasn't necessary, eh? It's funny how some people can say "I don't want an amendment, but I want marriage to remain between one man and one woman.". This should show them that that outcome isn't realistic.

    Make up your minds or the Supreme Court will make it up for you. It will be nearly impossible to undo their decision once it has been made.
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    Another session of legislation from the court. Great. Constitution be darned, let's rule based on what we want to be!

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    The purpose of the courts is to interpret the law and the constitution. They did that. The people have the power to overturn it by amending the constitution. This is how america works

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    The purpose of the courts is to interpret the law and the constitution. They did that. The people have the power to overturn it by amending the constitution. This is how america works
    Exactly!

    Making laws are much easier then amending a constitution, so it is easier to pass unfair laws. The state's and US constitutions protect us from quickly passed laws and regulations.
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    The funny thing is that Slavery - arguably the most egregious breach of human rights and dignity was never ruled as unconstitutional. They recognized that it was acceptable during the writing of the Constitution and thereby acceptable practice. It took a few amendments to push black rights into the Constitution as it should have. They did it the right way because they recognized that the Constitution IS the perception that governs our legal reality.

    If they had added an amendment FOR gay marriage or abortion, I would disagree, but I would understand. The current practices are so far beyond the ideals enshrined in the Constitution that it is laughable. They make a mockery of everything the Document stands for. We could probably hook up a few wires under the oldest cemetery in America and power every power grid in the world from all of the perpetually rolling caskets.

    The Supreme court has become a modern version of The Oracle. "Truths are constantly revealing themselves to us that illuminate the TRUE meaning of the Constitution!"
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    The funny thing is that Slavery - arguably the most egregious breach of human rights and dignity was never ruled as unconstitutional. They recognized that it was acceptable during the writing of the Constitution and thereby acceptable practice. It took a few amendments to push black rights into the Constitution as it should have. They did it the right way because they recognized that the Constitution IS the perception that governs our legal reality.

    If they had added an amendment FOR gay marriage or abortion, I would disagree, but I would understand. The current practices are so far beyond the ideals enshrined in the Constitution that it is laughable. They make a mockery of everything the Document stands for. We could probably hook up a few wires under the oldest cemetery in America and power every power grid in the world from all of the perpetually rolling caskets.

    The Supreme court has become a modern version of The Oracle. "Truths are constantly revealing themselves to us that illuminate the TRUE meaning of the Constitution!"
    In Connecticut the state constitution guarantees equal protection for all people under the law. Not the separate but equal civil unions, but equal.

    Not only that, but if you do not allow some liberal churches to perform gay marriages is than not taking peoples right to religious freedom away?
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    Not only that, but if you do not allow some liberal churches to perform gay marriages is than not taking peoples right to religious freedom away?
    What are you talking about? You believe that the law against gay marriage impacts the ability of religious institutions to perform gay marriages?
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    What are you talking about? You believe that the law against gay marriage impacts the ability of religious institutions to perform gay marriages?
    If a church preforms a standard marriage it is recognized as legal, if people had the license. Another church performs a gay marriage a state may not recognize the marriage as legal. I believe in some states if a priest/pastor preforms a marriage without a license they can loss the ability to marry people.

    What about the fact that two people of the same sex can't marry is sexually discrimination. The only reason they can't marry is because of there gender. Sounds like sexual discrimination.

    What about the fact that allowing Gay couples to marry will not affect you or me, or anyone else. So much fro freedoms.

    I don't understand how at this point this can even be an issue. Please explain to me why Gay couples should not be given the same rights as straight couples?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    Debate??!!! No, No, No. That's not how it works anymore. They did debate it when they decided in favor of civil unions a few years ago in order to keep marriage between one man and one woman.

    The current decision was by the Supreme Court of the State who has decreed that the people of CT shouldn't have the power to decide things that the court has a strong opinion of.

    The only State to legitimately allow Gay Marriages is Mass. Others only allow it because the courts decided to overturn the law.
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    How does this effect any of you? I understand the use of the term marriage and maybe I can see the bullying of the churches but in what honest to God way will this have a negative effect on the country? The USA has extended larger rights to smaller groups of people in the past so whats the big deal? The judicial activism I dont like but as this kind of thing should go through legislature but that doesnt seem to be what some of yall are arguing.
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