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    Part-Time Polemic Senior Member ICantSpellDawg's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koga No Goshi View Post
    You compared man-man to man-toaster. Toaster is an inanimate object. You can't dedicate your life meaningfully to a toaster or have the toaster make hospital decisions for you when you are incapacitated.
    How dare you judge the love between a man and his toaster? I'd bet the toaster would have professional knowledge about when it was time to pull the plug...

    Marriage is special because it is between a man an a woman. Because it exemplifies the ideal it has been allotted special recognition and privileges. A union between two men or two women is not the same kind of special and shouldn't be allotted those privileges. It is not mystical. You can't put a piece of your body in one end of their body and then 9 months later a human being comes out. You have to admit that action is pretty freaking unique and worthy of note.

    You can argue that society has no right to define an ideal or give special recognition to the naturally incredible miracle of life - but I would disagree. Are you guys going to take the issue up with mother nature and sue her because the relationships that you support don't have that amazing element of surprise inherent in them?

    Anybody who doesn't see how unique the 1male/1female relationship is is already at least half way out of their minds. I think it deserves its own recognition and shouldn't be crowded out by court mandated, politically charged, sexual confusion.
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    This is getting circular very fast. Marriage is man + woman, man + woman is good, so marriage is good for man + woman.

    Remember that "pursuit of happiness" business? It wasn't just for one kind of person. The "well gay people can marry too, they just have to marry someone of the opposite gender" argument is really bad, please don't repeat it.

    What the U.S. hasn't mmm "gotten over yet", is that, for willing couples, same sex + same sex is good too, and so is being able to share medical decisions, and share property, and have the law recognize that as a couple, they have certain rights over their relationship and property that biological family shouldn't simply be able to step in and usurp when one partner dies, or is injured or ill.
    And further, that acknowledging this in no way diminishes the good of man + woman, or in any way detracts from or harms their relationship or their legal status as married couples in the U.S.

    It still comes down to, however, this is an issue of prejudice and not wanting to accept something different which in no way other than being different affects or harms or diminishes you or your rights or your marriage/future marriage.
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    Default Re: Another State Legalizes gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    How dare you judge the love between a man and his toaster? I'd bet the toaster would have professional knowledge about when it was time to pull the plug...

    Marriage is special because it is between a man an a woman. Because it exemplifies the ideal it has been allotted special recognition and privileges. A union between two men or two women is not the same kind of special and shouldn't be allotted those privileges. It is not mystical. You can't put a piece of your body in one end of their body and then 9 months later a human being comes out. You have to admit that action is pretty freaking unique and worthy of note.

    You can argue that society has no right to define an ideal or give special recognition to the naturally incredible miracle of life - but I would disagree. Are you guys going to take the issue up with mother nature and sue her because the relationships that you support don't have that amazing element of surprise inherent in them?

    Anybody who doesn't see how unique the 1male/1female relationship is is already at least half way out of their minds. I think it deserves its own recognition and shouldn't be crowded out by court mandated, politically charged, sexual confusion.
    A toaster is not a connecting adult.

    People have children without being married all the time. Some married couples don't have children. Some married couples can't have children, should we not let them get married.

    You say people who share a fetish should not be able to get married. Some states still have laws that make fellatio and cunnilingus illegal. Should couples who partake in these not be allowed to marry? What about couples into S&M, or swinger?

    Marriage = 1 man and 1 women and we should not change that definition is your other argument. Well in this country at one time Black = Slave.

    As far as mother nature, do your research other animals in nature display gay behavior. Plus, mother nature would have people die of simple diseases, should we let people die as well. Mother nature would have men having sex with every women he could, should we applaud this behavior, which is more dangerous to marriage.

    Your finale point was that marriage between a man and a women is special. How does letting gay couples marry make your or my marriage less special?

    It all comes down to the fact that you don't like what gay people do, so you can't bring yourself to allow anything that would make being gay "ok".
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