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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Tuffstuff Do not tell me what I will think.



    I had a long drawn out response but This isnt worth my time. You seem to think this is a battle and if the gays win everything will fall and soon Joe bob will marry his goat. Dont assume simply because I dont mind two men playing in the mud to solidify there relationship is the same as bestiality.
    I suspect that you will think it is fine once a few happy animals walk in front of you with loving and committed owners.

    You don't see a trend in favor of more rights for animals? When do you think it will cross that logical line that gay marriage did into the land of reality?

    Did you say years ago that gay marriage would be a reality? I doubt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    You don't see a trend in favor of more rights for animals? When do you think it will cross that logical line that gay marriage did into the land of reality?
    Animals can't give consent however if you do know a goat that can say yes please point him or her out to me as I find goats to be less demanding and warmer than females.
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    Animals can't give consent however if you do know a goat that can say yes please point him or her out to me as I find goats to be less demanding and warmer than females.
    "Animals can't give consent". What is consent?

    Consent; to give assent or approval.

    You can say that animals can't do certain things, but give consent? They can't tell you whether they want something or not - whether they approve or not? Do you own pets, have you ever interacted with an animal? They most assuredly have personalities, likes and dislikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    "Animals can't give consent". What is consent?

    Consent; to give assent or approval.

    You can say that animals can't do certain things, but give consent? They can't tell you whether they want something or not - whether they approve or not? Do you own pets, have you ever interacted with an animal? They most assuredly have personalities, likes and dislikes.
    Can my dog tell my doctor what my medical directives are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koga No Goshi View Post
    Can my dog tell my doctor what my medical directives are?
    That depends on what your medical directives are. I know some people who couldn't relay medical directives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    That depends on what your medical directives are. I know some people who couldn't relay medical directives.
    Tuff even going back to the beginning of literacy, consent has been either oral or by making one's mark. Animals can't even do that unless trained to do so and even then are merely repeating a trained action and have no idea what it is they are "signing."

    You are too smart to believe this ridiculous argument you are making. Try another tack.
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    Tuff even going back to the beginning of literacy, consent has been either oral or by making one's mark. Animals can't even do that unless trained to do so and even then are merely repeating a trained action and have no idea what it is they are "signing."

    You are too smart to believe this ridiculous argument you are making. Try another tack.
    If people are born being attracted to animals and it hurts nobody, why is it wrong?

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    Just curious, but where is there a federal prohibition against discrimination against personal practices or lifestyle choices in Federal law?

    I can see how such laws in Connecticut have led to their recent ruling - Thank goodness our Federal law hasn't passed yet.
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    Well TSM you want 'freedom' this is what happens.

    EDIT: Meant TSM not TSF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    "Animals can't give consent". What is consent?

    Consent; to give assent or approval.

    You can say that animals can't do certain things, but give consent? They can't tell you whether they want something or not - whether they approve or not?
    You try asking your horse to marry you. What's it going to do, neigh?

    Besides, Mr. Hands wouldn't agree!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    "Animals can't give consent". What is consent?

    Consent; to give assent or approval.

    You can say that animals can't do certain things, but give consent? They can't tell you whether they want something or not - whether they approve or not? Do you own pets, have you ever interacted with an animal? They most assuredly have personalities, likes and dislikes.
    What is consent? Do you like being obtuse?

    "Mary would you like to marry me?"

    "Yes John"

    "Goat would you like to marry me?"

    There are no quotes for the goat because the goat cant talk how unfortunate.

    Oh jesus now you're going to bring up deaf people.
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