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    I despised 300, and I realize is wasn't meant to be historical. I watched it with an Iranian friend, and he was extremely offended at the depiction of the Persian Empire as a nation of slaves.
    It would have been a whole lot more insulting if they were believably portrayed as a nation of slaves (and don't forget disfigured monsters and transsexual S&M perverts). Personally, as someone who is regularly mistaken for middle-eastern, I was relieved that they exaggerated enough for the caricature to be obvious.

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    The thing I hated most about 300 is how it just proved how ignorant and stupid toward history most of my fellow US citizens are.
    Don't look now, but the 2004 presidential election already proved that

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    Don't look now, but the 2004 presidential election already proved that

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    Oh another film I quite liked was Last of the Mohicans, not really Medieval or ancient but a good adventure movie!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conradus View Post
    You guys sure are hard on most of these movies.
    I don't know about others, but I for one watch these movies because I like history, which means I want the movies to be historically accurate(especially concerning battles), or at least not so obviously ahistorical as some of these movies are.

    This is why movies like Troy or King Arthur didn't really do it for me.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gleemonex View Post
    The reason I can accept it is that (IMO) Hollywood has been doing alright in portraying the human side of military leaders lately. The best examples that come to mind now are We Were Soldiers and A Few Good Men. Also, I'm told that Hitler: The Rise of Evil is really good, and I'm a big Robert Carlyle fan.
    Der Untergang also springs to mind.

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    The thing I hated most about 300 is how it just proved how ignorant and stupid toward history most of my fellow US citizens are.
    And that's the movies fault?

    Quote Originally Posted by penguinking View Post
    I despised 300, and I realize is wasn't meant to be historical. I watched it with an Iranian friend, and he was extremely offended at the depiction of the Persian Empire as a nation of slaves.
    Again, that was only Dilios' opinion/observation of the opposing army.

    And I agree that a historically accurate movie of the battle of Thermopylae would be awesome, but in the meanwhile people shouldn't try to squeeze 300 into that role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppis View Post
    I don't know about others, but I for one watch these movies because I like history, which means I want the movies to be historically accurate(especially concerning battles), or at least not so obviously ahistorical as some of these movies are.

    This is why movies like Troy or King Arthur didn't really do it for me.
    You watch a movie like Troy, based on one of the first fiction novels in history and you expect it to be historically accurate? I mean, be glad they didn't include gods in the fighting or Achilles fighting against an entire river.

    Though I wouldn't mind if they'd stay closer to the Illiad. But that would be unfilmable.

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    Ok maybe Troy wasn't the greatest example. I did actually enjoy the movie the first time I saw it in theater, as did most of my friends.

    The fighting choreography was truly breathtaking(though how historically accurate it would be, I can't say), but after seeing it a couple of times, it's inefficiencies(spelling?) popped up like actors, CGI armies, heroes turned into action movie clichés... you know, all the things I liked in 300.
    Last edited by Poppis; 10-12-2008 at 13:26.

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