New factions?

[a completely inoffensive name]

These are my predicted factions:

1. Pergamon
2. Bartix Bosporan Kingdom

If I get at least 50% of my predictions right you all owe me a bottle of Coca-Cola.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Only if you solve the outcome (actual number) of:

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[Sir Edward]

Only if you solve the outcome (actual number) of:

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i'll take a stab and say 42.


Also a revised list of factions I think will make it into EB2 (but will not be upset if EB team can choose more appropriate ones.

1. Belgae
2. Bosphorian Kingdom
3. Arevaci
4. Pergamon
5. Boii
6. Atropatene
7. Massyli
8. Nabataea
9. Gandhara Satrap
10. Empty for scripting purposes

[vonhaupold]

I guess I'll take a crack at this and make a prediction.

1. Pergamon
2. Galatia
3. Numidia
4. Illyria
5. Belgae
6. Syracuse
7. Massilia
8. Cetl Iberian
9. Turdetani
10. Some Thracian faction

[Oqlanth]

Well;
Here is my list;
1-Pergamon (already choosen so I put her in first)
2-Bosphorian Kingdom (why? Because interesting place... Can also be resisting force against Sarmatians)
3-Celtiberian / Arevaci (well after all Celtiberian suggests :D hehe Well Small Iberia needs another faction too :D :D )
4- Thracian / Odrysians (Well this is my suggestion... :D )
5 and 6 - I think EBII team put two factio in central Europa...But i am not sure which ones but I highly expect :D

Well I also like to see Numidians , Scythians and Illyrians but i noticed too much 'negative' comments about 'their impossibility as a playable EBII faction' I hope those imposibilites reduced in time

And I remember I gave a promise (it becomes an oath for me! :D ) that I will give detailed info about both EBII thracian units and detailed information for 'why odrysians' must be in EBII'...
And now I am continueing research my another study which is on Kommanes Megaes slows down the processes... :(

[a completely inoffensive name]

I can't find a good signature yet!

Just copy mine.

[Megas Methuselah]

Just copy mine.

However, mine is obviously of superior quality. Despite this, if anyone copies it, I'll issue a new proclamation demanding every orgah to flame you. Proceed at your own risk.

[Mithridates VI Eupator]

Well I also like to see Numidians , Scythians and Illyrians but i noticed too much 'negative' comments about 'their impossibility as a playable EBII faction' I hope those imposibilites reduced in time

And I remember I gave a promise (it becomes an oath for me! :D ) that I will give detailed info about both EBII thracian units and detailed information for 'why odrysians' must be in EBII'...
And now I am continueing research my another study which is on Kommanes Megaes slows down the processes... :(

Scythians were in decline and Illyrians were yet to be organized enough, but although no official statement from the team exists on the subject, it is the general consensus among the fans that some Numidian faction will be in. Though it will certainly not be just a generic "numidian" faction, but rater one of the two main numidian tribes of the period, the Maesyli and the Masaesyli (or both).


And for the Thraikians, the Odrysian kingdom is the right period (founded c. 280, after the celtic ravagings), but I'm not thoroughly convinced, though. Particularly as I don't think they expanded much beyond their original borders. Maybe your research will change my mind, though...

[Tellos Athenaios]

i'll take a stab and say 42.

Wrong, but here's a hint: the code is equivalent to:

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[Strategos Alexandros]

Only if you solve the outcome (actual number) of:

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[Oqlanth]

Well Mithridates VI Eupator, you are right. It will be an impolite action to 'history fans' (well most of the people outside calls us history freaks :D ) to make 'numidia' faction like vanilla. Well except my apologising to using these simple generalising.

About Scythians, you are right. Last great Scythian expansion was at king Ateas times(not sure may be around 330~ BC) but as I remembered they made last good fights against Romans, Pontos and Germans (goths) from 3th Century BC till they were destroyed in 3rd century AD. So they will be nice 'conflicting and struggling faction'. They also achieved to built some other states in these times.

Well for Illyrians there was 'legendary' Pleuratus' dynasty of Illyria betweem 344 - 168 BC. You may check them they are one of the interesting faction of their time.

And about Odrysain...hehe ...I don't want to talk much about them till I completed my study but I can at least say this;
Odrysain kingdom established at 5th century BC... In 279 BC they were beaten by Celts but not destroyed and they successed at 'reestablising' their kingdoms and this makes them more interesting as a faction :D

Well meanwhile I am making research Odrysians I also find Tylis interesting :D ... Unfortunately they were not long lived faction :( ...Destroyed by Odrysai :D hehehe

Meanwhile I love Mithridates VI Eupator! i mean historical one :D ) ... He was 'Last King' hehehe! :D

And also thanks for giving advice for signature :D

[General Appo]

Well Mithridates VI Eupator, you are right. It will be an impolite action to 'history fans' (well most of the people outside calls us history freaks :D ) to make 'numidia' faction like vanilla.

You do know that the EB team are probably the biggest history freaks this side of the retirement home?

[Oqlanth]

You do know that the EB team are probably the biggest history freaks this side of the retirement home?

HEHEHE!!!... You are right!... It is good to know I am not alone! :D hehehe!!!

[Mithridates VI Eupator]

Well Mithridates VI Eupator, you are right. It will be an impolite action to 'history fans' (well most of the people outside calls us history freaks :D ) to make 'numidia' faction like vanilla. Well except my apologising to using these simple generalising.

No need!
I merely wanted to clarify which Numidian factions might be considered.

About Scythians, you are right. Last great Scythian expansion was at king Ateas times(not sure may be around 330~ BC) but as I remembered they made last good fights against Romans, Pontos and Germans (goths) from 3th Century BC till they were destroyed in 3rd century AD. So they will be nice 'conflicting and struggling faction'. They also achieved to built some other states in these times..

True, I would fiund it interesting to see a Scythian faction too, struggling to regain their former glory, and drive those pesky Sauromatae from the steppes, but I think the EB-team has basically said that they won't make it, as there are other kingdoms, that were on the rise at the time, that might be in more dire need of a faction slot. And actually, this might be a good decition.

And about Odrysain...hehe ...I don't want to talk much about them till I completed my study but I can at least say this;
Odrysain kingdom established at 5th century BC... In 279 BC they were beaten by Celts but not destroyed and they successed at 'reestablising' their kingdoms and this makes them more interesting as a faction :D

Well meanwhile I am making research Odrysians I also find Tylis interesting :D ... Unfortunately they were not long lived faction :( ...Destroyed by Odrysai :D hehehe

Yes, they did reestabilsh themselves shortly after the Celtic invasion, that's what I meant. Didn't know they were as old as 5:th century, though.
I found a book in the library about the Odrysians some time ago, but didn't have time to read it thoroughly then. However, from what I gather, they were a rather warlike people, and an interesting Helleno-Thraikian mix, so though I still have my doubts, I guess they could be an Interesting faction.

Meanwhile I love Mithridates VI Eupator! i mean historical one :D ) ... He was 'Last King' hehehe! :D

Yeah, he's been my "idol" since his first guest-starring in AoE... There is something appealing in that mix of enlightened, philhellenic ruler, and despotic tyrant.

EDIT: Out of curiosity, what do you mean with "Last King"?

[Hax]

Last Pontic king, IIRC.

[Mithridates VI Eupator]

As a matter of fact, his son, Pharnakes, made a brief attempt to reestablish the Pontic kingdom, with some initial success, until he recieved a royal spanking by good ol' Julius Ceaesar, prompting him to utter the famous words "Veni, vidi, vici". But I guess that doesn't count...

[Oqlanth]

Yes, they did reestabilsh themselves shortly after the Celtic invasion, that's what I meant. Didn't know they were as old as 5:th century, though.
I found a book in the library about the Odrysians some time ago, but didn't have time to read it thoroughly then. However, from what I gather, they were a rather warlike people, and an interesting Helleno-Thraikian mix, so though I still have my doubts, I guess they could be an Interesting faction.

Meanwhile I forgot to ask...what is the name of the book and who is it's author?

[Mithridates VI Eupator]

It was actually about thraikians in general, not only odrysians, but there seemed to be quite a lot of info in it. Though I', afraid I don't remember who wrote it, or its name. I think it was just called "Thrace" or "The Thracians", or something like that. I think its cover was red, if that can be any help. I can check it out some time when I go to the that library.
Sorry that I can't be of any more help...