View Poll Results: Americas Greatest Strength is the ability to adapt and take on new ideas

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    Vermonter and Seperatist Member Uesugi Kenshin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    While I agree it is a big part I dont think its the biggest. America does not face the demographic time-bomb that Europe faces nor the Chinese aversion to change nor the debilitating caste system of India. All because of adaptation
    I would have to disagree, though I partially agree. America has been one of the more willing to adapt nations, but a lot of Americans are not very willing to adapt and I think the upsurge in Crazy Conservatism is a symptom of that, though it is certainly due to a few other things too. It seems like the country may be getting over that to some degree, but if you ever go to a Palin rally you'll see it certainly hasn't died yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uesugi Kenshin View Post
    I would have to disagree, though I partially agree. America has been one of the more willing to adapt nations, but a lot of Americans are not very willing to adapt and I think the upsurge in Crazy Conservatism is a symptom of that, though it is certainly due to a few other things to. It seems like the country may be getting over that to some degree, but if you ever go to a Palin rally you'll see it certainly hasn't died yet.
    This is true. This kind of with us or against us threatens to undo 200 years of relatively good and sound decision making.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    This is true. This kind of with us or against us threatens to undo 200 years of relatively good and sound decision making.
    Kinda going off what Uesugi said, I think there is a portion out there who thinks we're good enough as-if, have advanced and progressed enough, and further change is unwanted. Or "stepping down from perfection" as it were. I think America's long fixation with its own superiority has helped fuel this mindset and I think we've slipped from being the 'best' in so many ways because of it. There are too many people who think something inherent about being American is what makes us better, rather than what we do with being Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koga No Goshi View Post
    Kinda going off what Uesugi said, I think there is a portion out there who thinks we're good enough as-if, have advanced and progressed enough, and further change is unwanted. Or "stepping down from perfection" as it were. I think America's long fixation with its own superiority has helped fuel this mindset and I think we've slipped from being the 'best' in so many ways because of it. There are too many people who think something inherent about being American is what makes us better, rather than what we do with being Americans.
    I believe the idea of America is the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    I believe the idea of America is the best.
    But uh, there are things we rank behind Latvia in.

    It's all fine and good to say America is best in a prideful, my country right or wrong sort of way. But I'm more interested in our quality of living and educational standards than just a slogan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koga No Goshi View Post
    But uh, there are things we rank behind Latvia in.

    It's all fine and good to say America is best in a prideful, my country right or wrong sort of way. But I'm more interested in our quality of living and educational standards than just a slogan.
    Well I said idea not practice. I never perpetuated a slogan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Well I said idea not practice. I never perpetuated a slogan.
    Yep, IMO, the American ideal is perfectly fine only the manner its being implemented. Just look at the mess we're in right now....

    What the US should never do is what Koga No Goshi mentioned earlier: maintain a mindset of superiority over the rest of the world that ends up breeding ignorance. Just look at Ming dynasty China. The chinese civilization was arguably the best in the world during the beginning of their reign so the Ming emperors just took a look around, burned down the world's biggest fleet, and shut down Chinese interaction with the rest of the world. Thus, China missed out on all of the European innovations and ended up in a huge mess that still partially accounts for China's relative instability right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koga No Goshi View Post
    But uh, there are things we rank behind Latvia in.

    It's all fine and good to say America is best in a prideful, my country right or wrong sort of way. But I'm more interested in our quality of living and educational standards than just a slogan.
    Country rankings are often misleading. For example, the massive influx of mexican immigrants bring America's rankings down in many areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    Country rankings are often misleading. For example, the massive influx of mexican immigrants bring America's rankings down in many areas.
    Just Mexicans?
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