"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
I edited my post before you answered...sorry.
Like I said....when we don´t know something....we should just say we don´t know...I see no reason to make up answers....
but If I want to...I could make up answers with no problem....specially if I can have the special dispensation of logic rules religion enjoys......will phylosophers disagree with me?...sure...but I can just say they areheads that don´t know the real truth of the Lord! (me)
see?...easy.
"If given the choice to be the shepherd or the sheep... be the wolf"
-Josh Homme
"That's the difference between me and the rest of the world! Happiness isn't good enough for me! I demand euphoria!"
- Calvin
Science and religion both seek truth. Generally people say that the difference between the two is that religion relies on beliefs. In my view though, science relies on belief (as it should) and goes to great lengths to test and retest those beliefs. The ability to conceptualize is key to scientific understanding. Religion also relies on belief, but shouldn't. Knowing truth doesn't require belief. But people like beliefs so they are an important part of most current religions, even if the founders of those religions wouldn't approve.
"There is a first cause of the universe" never seemed like an argument that came close to answering "why are we here?" to me...COsmological Argument is a fairly well-known one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_argument
Last edited by Sasaki Kojiro; 10-22-2008 at 16:48.
Too much censorship on these boards.
Last edited by Kadagar_AV; 10-22-2008 at 18:41.
YA RLY...
COsmological Argument is a fairly well-known one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_argument
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
This sounds like something out of a certain US based faith who threw these lines at you in the nineties. It's been a while since I have seen this particular combination. Not many denominations have answers to these questions which were regarded by Clement of Rome as part of the terrible questions.
Yeah... this old thing.
A linky to something that ended too short.
Besides, that is old - a better one would be something about The Transcendental Proof of God's Existence.
If I ever get to debate the theist side again I am going to use this concept in my argument.
Last edited by Sigurd; 10-22-2008 at 22:40.
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There are tons of similar examples, but prostate cancer being known for much of western history as "priest's disease" due to its much higher chances of appearing in men who abstain from all sexual activity (including masturbation) is one instance of how religion does not codify so-called natural law, and in fact, many times mandates people to go against natural law. To the detriment of their health, sometimes.
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