Idea 4 eleutheroi

[Ludens]

They have thought about it, probably a lot more than you have or anyone else have. And they have rejected the idea. 1§

That's not very helpful, is it?

Yes yes i understand you dont wanna use the idea.
What i dont understand are the reasons.and anyway from this can come many others.Just think about it.

The problem is that, whether you create one or two rebel factions, the "rebels" would still be an artificial unit. If you turn Athens' colonies/allies into a faction, it will actually behave like a single nation rather than independent cities. Since EB is about realism, this is undesirable.

Also, the "rebels" aren't just pirates and brigands, in fact most of them aren't even rebels. They are minor factions that could not be included due to limitations in the engine. As such, it would be realistic to be able to negotiate with all of them, but again engine limitations don't allow this level of realism. Splitting them in two, so you can negotiate with part of the "rebels," seems a poor simulation of that.

[General Appo]

That's not very helpful, is it?

It wasn´t supposed to be.

[Smeel]

I might point out that Roma Surrectum have an extra "rebel" faction, and this extra faction given Provinces where there should have been a faction if not for the hardcoded limit, with some ordinary rebel cities around it. I haven't played RS more than 5 minutes though, went back t oeb ;) SO I don't know how well it works. But I like the concept.

[ziegenpeter]

AFAIK there are no "rebels" as such. All the Eleutheroi represent independent cities, tribes or minor kingdoms.