What is wrong with having a Muslim as president?

[Koga No Goshi]

No. Background means they grew up in a particular type of household. That's different than an ideology someone clings to today.

How the hell is Islam an "ideology" anymore than Christianity is?

I guess it needs reminding that we have a President who says God told him to start these wars, and a running VP candidate who says Iraq is a mission from God.

What would you guys be saying if these were Muslim Americans saying similar things?

RVG - I fail to see how an outside observer, watching U.S. politics, especially on the Republican side, would agree with you that Christianity has "renounced" violence anymore than Islam has, in light of how extra super duper Christian Bush, Palin and the rest profess to be the 50% of the time they're not talking about war and Muslim extremists and terrorism.

[rvg]

RVG - I fail to see how an outside observer, watching U.S. politics, especially on the Republican side, would agree with you that Christianity has "renounced" violence anymore than Islam has, in light of how extra super duper Christian Bush, Palin and the rest profess to be the 50% of the time they're not talking about war and Muslim extremists and terrorism.

War on terror is not a religious war.

[Koga No Goshi]

War on terror is not a religious war.

Um, you need to tell that to Bush and Palin.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

How the hell is Islam an "ideology" anymore than Christianity is?

I think the distinction is between Islam and Islamism.

[Koga No Goshi]

I think the distinction is between Islam and Islamism.

I'm struggling to see the difference between people who use Islam as a means of control and political power, and people who use a litmus of "Christian values" issues as a means of control and political power. We don't have a "Christian Sharia state", this is true. But 49-51% of the U.S. electorate turns out every 4 years to vote for a party essentially promising to do their best to make one.

[yesdachi]

I'm struggling to see the difference between people who use Islam as a means of control and political power, and people who use a litmus of "Christian values" issues as a means of control and political power. We don't have a "Christian Sharia state", this is true. But 49-51% of the U.S. electorate turns out every 4 years to vote for a party essentially promising to do their best to make one.

Little thick on the drama today.

[Koga No Goshi]

Little thick on the drama today.

Well? Do you see any difference between the religions in terms of their double-dippage for use as political ideologies? I don't.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Left

The notion that the Republican Party is going to create a Christian theocracy is laughable at best.

[yesdachi]

Well? Do you see any difference between the religions in terms of their double-dippage for use as political ideologies? I don't.

I think there is a fringe percentage that would like a Christian theocracy but for the most part I don’t think Americans even the ones that are relatively religious (say republicans 50 % of the population) are looking for a fundamental change in the country whereas I see a Muslim/Islamic dominated country being more interested in crossing the separation of church and state.

[Koga No Goshi]

I think there is a fringe percentage that would like a Christian theocracy but for the most part I don’t think Americans even the ones that are relatively religious (say republicans 50 % of the population) are looking for a fundamental change in the country whereas I see a Muslim/Islamic dominated country being more interested in crossing the separation of church and state.

Thank you for proving my point. There is nothing hardwired in, or out, of either religion, which prevents their use as a rallying cry for political power. I don't know how either of you got "the U.S. and the Middle East share identical political systems" out of my statement.

The notion that the Republican Party is going to create a Christian theocracy is laughable at best.

So what? They pander to the myth that they will. And that brings them in voters.