No better than them

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Listen mate, it's hard to accept but that's life. The Germans lost. That's what happens when you lose.

We've accepted that it happens - the fact remains that it was unjust and cruel.

[Caius]

We've accepted that it happens - the fact remains that it was unjust and cruel.

Cruel for the Germans? What about the Jews?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Cruel for the Germans? What about the Jews?

Do the two have to be mutually exclusive? Can something be cruel towards Germans while something else is cruel to the Jews? Yes, I think so.

[Rhyfelwyr]

I don't think we should deny the suffering that many Germans endured. Of course, numbers wise it may seem to pale into comparison when considering how many died by the Nazi regime.

But each individual German's suffering was just as great (generally speaking) as that of any individual of another ethnic background, and it should not be ignored or tossed aside as insignificant.

Remember those who were persecuted - all of them.

[CountArach]

They are human beings. It is wrong by definition.

[seireikhaan]

For them that live by the sword, shall perish by it.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

For them that live by the sword, shall perish by it.

Once again presuming, of course, that all Germans actively supported the National Socialist regime and all of its expansionist and racial policies, as well as the war.

[Tribesman]

Just wondering , when it comes to Germans expelled from Poland and Czechoslovakia for examples what proportion were original residents and what proportion were settlers shipped there from other places to make the territories more Germanic for the thousand year reich ?
Actually when you think of it didn't Nazi Germany have a deal with lots of different eastern european countries to deport the all the ethnic Germans to German territory....so would that mean that the eastern european countries were just completing the deal ....but its just that the Germany for the Germans territory had shrunk somewhat by then