German Identity

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

However, don't be proud of yourself just because you are German, that is wrong.

Why is that wrong? I don't see anything wrong with someone being proud of being British and the British culture, Canada and the Canadian culture, Russia and the Russian culture, so why is being German different? Or do you think it isn't, and perhaps I am simply misunderstanding?

[KarlXII]

Why is that wrong? I don't see anything wrong with someone being proud of being British and the British culture, Canada and the Canadian culture, Russia and the Russian culture, so why is being German different? Or do you think it isn't, and perhaps I am simply misunderstanding?

I think he may mean don't be Krook proud of being a certain culture

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I think he may mean don't be Krook proud of being a certain culture

My pride in the USA is every bit as robust as Krook's for his native land. I have this pride even though I am well aware of the problems and blind spots we most certainly have. Krook does tend to gloss over that side of things a bit.

[KarlXII]

My pride in the USA is every bit as robust as Krook's for his native land. I have this pride even though I am well aware of the problems and blind spots we most certainly have. Krook does tend to gloss over that side of things a bit.

And there is a fine line between "USA #1" and "USA 1 Eurofags 0"

[Rhyfelwyr]

Why is that wrong? I don't see anything wrong with someone being proud of being British and the British culture, Canada and the Canadian culture, Russia and the Russian culture, so why is being German different? Or do you think it isn't, and perhaps I am simply misunderstanding?

Don't get me wrong, I do not mean Germany specifically. I am just being a puritan when I say don't be proud of yourself.

What I mean is that there is nothing wrong with holding Germany, its history, and its values in high regard. It's got an incredibly interesting history as any wargamer will know. Just don't think proudly of yourself for being German, if German values are reflected in you then it is because of the influence that it has had on you, not something you can attribute to your own merit.

Same applies to anyone from anywhere.

[Husar]

Don't get me wrong, I do not mean Germany specifically. I am just being a puritan when I say don't be proud of yourself.

What I mean is that there is nothing wrong with holding Germany, its history, and its values in high regard. It's got an incredibly interesting history as any wargamer will know. Just don't think proudly of yourself for being German, if German values are reflected in you then it is because of the influence that it has had on you, not something you can attribute to your own merit.

Same applies to anyone from anywhere.

I think we had that discussion before and it came down to proud also having a somewhat more applicable meaning in english or something like that.

[Fragony]

Our much apreciated neighbours, we all get a little crazy sometimes germans are just so terribly effective when they do.

[KrooK]

I don't see any problem when German is pround to be German.
Germany is nice country with well organised people.
Problem starts when Germans starts being pround from sending people do gas chambers.
If they are pround of being Germans and they are pround from their country - ok for me.