Sweet Realistic Medieval Combat (Mount and Blade)

**rajpoot** · 07-06-2010, 07:36

Originally Posted by Mailman653

For the daughters of lords and such, what does "Controversy" mean? The girl I have my eye on has a controversy of 12.

Means they've been on the third page of Calradia Gazette for all the wrong reasons.

**Mailman653** · 07-08-2010, 06:56

I've never seen this but I thought id ask anyway. Is there an editor or mod some where that changes the apperance of NPC's? Like for example I'd like to give a lady or a lord different hair or clothing.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 07-08-2010, 16:59

As it happens, there is.

You can download the module tools from taleworlds. I suggest checking out one of the guides in the modding section; they'll show you how to set up the module.

Once you do that, it's pretty straightforward to go into module_troops.py and change the target different clothing or a new facial code. There's more tutorials to explain that as well.

CR

**Beskar** · 07-09-2010, 05:34

For a new module, you basically copy and paste the native folder. There was an unofficial troop editor which you could easily change the armour/looks/etc of NPC's, even change their titles.

Though, they might have released the officially tools for Warband, assuming from CR's comment. Finally time, if so.

**Mailman653** · 07-09-2010, 21:12

I found that unofficial troop editor, I haven't tested it out yet but it looks cool although I can see trying to make new faces will take a while and a lot of trial and error. Too bad there isn't a sort of face model viewer. Make a face, copy the code and paste without having to start the game every time.

**Mouzafphaerre** · 08-13-2010, 03:07

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Now (rhetorically

) that Warband is out, have they discontinued upgrading vanilla?
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**Mouzafphaerre** · 08-16-2010, 01:57

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I'm asking here because the official sites aren't informative and, they being infested by trolloids, presumably mostly my beloved fellow countrymen, I wouldn't ask at the official fora.

Anybody? Anything?
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**miotas** · 08-16-2010, 10:11

Yeah, vanilla isn't being updated any more. I think that Warband is basically considered the updated version, the retail version of vanilla was Mount and Blade 1.011, and the current Warband update is Mount and Blade 1.127.

**Beskar** · 08-16-2010, 10:30

Generally that is the case. Companies don't bother expanding on the old, due to the cost/profit benefit is near zero, plus they want you to buy their new toys.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 08-16-2010, 17:10

Originally Posted by Beskar

Generally that is the case. Companies don't bother expanding on the old, due to the cost/profit benefit is near zero, plus they want you to buy their new toys.

To be fair to Taleworlds, they aren't a large company. I don't think they have the resources to keep updating Warband, as they are, and keep updating M&B.

CR

**Beskar** · 08-16-2010, 19:33

Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

To be fair to Taleworlds, they aren't a large company. I don't think they have the resources to keep updating Warband, as they are, and keep updating M&B.

CR

Not having ago at Taleworlds. If anything they are very good. They don't release a different branded M&B every year forcing you to constantly upgrade.

How long was M&B 1 around for? Something like 4 years, constantly updated. That is dedication.

**al Roumi** · 08-17-2010, 10:33

Originally Posted by miotas

Yeah, vanilla isn't being updated any more. I think that Warband is basically considered the updated version, the retail version of vanilla was Mount and Blade 1.011, and the current Warband update is Mount and Blade 1.127.

[shameless fanboy plug] Plus, Warband adds so much to the game that once the mods catch up, it will be a much fuller game than Warband 1.011 +mods [/shameless fanboy plug]

**Mouzafphaerre** · 08-19-2010, 01:52

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As a matter of fact, they recently posted an unpublished update with the same version number, which removes the troop type limit and probably fixes some other minor glitches. Good for them.

Just download 1.011 again and install it on top of everything. Your mods and saved games will work.

Further question: Do they offer a discount on Warband for the existing M&B customers or beta testers? There's no info confirming or denying on the website. (As another committed fanboy I have to say that the website/forum ain't their best job.)
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**Crazed Rabbit** · 08-19-2010, 08:50

Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre

Further question: Do they offer a discount on Warband for the existing M&B customers or beta testers? There's no info confirming or denying on the website. (As another committed fanboy I have to say that the website/forum ain't their best job.)

I do not think so; I have never seen anything to indicate they are.

CR

**al Roumi** · 08-19-2010, 14:12

Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre

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Further question: Do they offer a discount on Warband for the existing M&B customers or beta testers? There's no info confirming or denying on the website. (As another committed fanboy I have to say that the website/forum ain't their best job.)
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No, not that I know of.

**Prussian to the Iron** · 08-19-2010, 18:46

i seem to remember there being something (though may have been limited time) that gave you Warband for $5 instead of $30 if you have an M&B serial key or something.

**Mouzafphaerre** · 08-21-2010, 03:54

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Thanks all. I'll ask them if I decide to buy Warband.
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**naut** · 08-23-2010, 17:29

Originally Posted by Mailman653

Warband is on sale on Steam till tomorrow, $14.99 down from $29.99.

Damn. I'd break my Steam boycott for that.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 08-27-2010, 02:17

Warband is only $10.20 over the weekend on Steam!

CR

**Quirinus** · 09-18-2010, 17:40

Maybe I'm slow, but I just figured out how to effectively time a swing from horseback.

After maybe a thousand game days and a dozen mods.

Before this I had been mostly a lancer, but then I lost my lance. So far this game has been a series of Eureka moments - the moment I learned how to couch, the moment I learned how to accelerate a swing, the moment I figured out the difference between cutting and piercing....

Now I realise I can never go back to couching. Swinging a morningstar in some hapless Khergit's face is just too damn fun.

(still playing 1.011, sadly.)

**rajpoot** · 09-18-2010, 20:15

Couching the lance is good for what...like the first charge of the battle.....IMO playing as a pure lancer in M&B or Warband is just not feasible....switching to the sword is a must. Get a Sword of War....great reach. And decent damage. Or if there's trouble with mouse movement, then get a two handed saber...I remember when Warband was released I couldn't manage the subtle difference between a thrust and a slash...so I got a saber, which cannot be used for thrust....it's satisfying, the sound of the enemy being chopped in two.

**Quirinus** · 09-20-2010, 05:35

I can't speak for others, but for me lancing is waay easier than any of the other styles. You only need to steer your horse, as opposed to other styles where you need to steer your horse and swing/aim your weapon. Combined with the fact that the AI almost never couches, it's possible to become a killer of armies from lvl 1 with a good (fast) horse and a lance with good reach. That's why for the longest time my basic equipment build was lance + morningstar-and-javelin as backup weapons (in case my horse dies).

Don't know about Warband though, since I read that there's a time limit for couching in WB.

**Togakure** · 09-20-2010, 07:38

I'm still playing MnB 1.011 as well. I like lancing because it doesn't need a high weapon proficiency and Power Strike skill points to be effective. Hence, it's a good companion weapon for a horse archer, which requires high Riding and Horse Archery skills in addition to a high Archery rating.

As far as being good for only the initial charge--hmm, I don't have this problem. I charge through and then circle the central cluster, picking off enemies on the outskirts one after another while maintaining speed, with lance or bow.

As far as castle assaults go, I take the bow and two quivers, and switch to a poleaxe when I'm ready to get in and hack. Works well, though I have to be careful of enemy shooters (I try to pick them all off before I run out of arrows). The poleaxe has great reach, does good damage, and is the same weapon proficiency as a lance, so I don't have to split points more than two ways.

**rajpoot** · 09-20-2010, 17:33

Well I guess it depends on the play-style. I always found maneuvering the horse too problematic to be a successful lancer. Plus with a lighter horse like a courser, the horse dying and leaving you stranded in the middle of enemies is a big possibility.
I normally use a two handed sword and a charger. That way even if I do get temporarily caught between droves of footmen, I can slash through them.

**Major Robert Dump** · 09-23-2010, 20:36

In the new version with damage set to normal and AI set to good, I get couched all the time, as do my heroes. Being at the front of a cavalry charge is like a crap shoot, I avoid any incoming spears like the plague or use my shield which gets disintegrated.

**Quirinus** · 10-01-2010, 16:21

Got Warband last week. And yeah, I got couch lanced more times in the short time I've been playing Warband than all the time I've been playing 1.011 (not counting mods, that is). I even got my horse killed under me in a tournament. Not that I'm complaining.

Couched lancing seems completely different now, just going with a two-hander/morningstar seems to be the way to go now. Way more versatile. Also the new swing animations were a shock at first (actually I still miss my horseback swings about two-thirds of the time), but it does make the combat seem more fluid once I got used to it. In particular I like that I can switch sides without having to release the swing.

**edyzmedieval** · 10-03-2010, 18:27

I played the Warband demo. Definitely not a fan of the new combat system, I hate the huge swing that you have with an axe, 90% of the time I miss the target.

For the moment I'm staying to M&B normal version, I'm level 34 and trying to capture the whole of Vaegir kingdom.

**Vuk** · 10-03-2010, 19:26

Originally Posted by edyzmedieval

I played the Warband demo. Definitely not a fan of the new combat system, I hate the huge swing that you have with an axe, 90% of the time I miss the target.

For the moment I'm staying to M&B normal version, I'm level 34 and trying to capture the whole of Vaegir kingdom.

I put out a mod that restores the original combat.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 12-29-2010, 07:19

Mount and Blade: Warband, which includes the same (though improved and expanded) campaign as the original M&B, and multiplayer, is on sale for only $15 on Steam.

I paid $12 for my version five years ago and that was still a great deal. Now, it's even more fantastic.

This is a game unlike any other; an open world, realistic medieval fighting game that also includes trade, politics, war, and intrigue.

Beyond the vanilla game are the huge variety of excellent mods:

Floris Mod Pack: