Civilization V!!

**Lemur** · 09-23-2010, 17:12

So did anybody spring for deluxe? How's Babylon? Worth it?

**Alexander the Pretty Good** · 09-23-2010, 18:02

Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

Which Civ game does not evolve into a stuck, railroadz-everywarez bore pack after certain ages ?

I like the game's primal eras a lot. I can start some Civ game over and over. However I don't remember a single game in Civ 4 which I could stand so long as to have reached modern times.

Well in Civ 5 railroads take a long time to build and have a respectable upkeep cost, so I don't think you'll see many games where they're everywhere. Playing an odd game right now but I've only got 3 lines (connecting my 3 cities to the capital) and nothing else.

Originally Posted by Lemur

So did anybody spring for deluxe? How's Babylon? Worth it?

My friend preordered it for me for my birthday but I haven't played as them yet. I've seen them be kind of sad in one game, but in another game they conquered everyone but me.

**Krusader** · 09-23-2010, 18:16

Originally Posted by Lemur

So did anybody spring for deluxe? How's Babylon? Worth it?

Will play them as soon as Steam allows me...damn different release dates setup that goes on.

**Alexander the Pretty Good** · 09-24-2010, 02:06

Just lost a 500 turn game (due to running out of time!). There were two main continents and a few good sized islands. I was on the smaller of the two continents as the Babylonians. I shared it with the Persians and Ottomans and 3 city states. Around the 600 AD mark or so (don't remember exactly) the Ottomans proposed we wipe out the Persians. Fine with me; I coveted some of their city locations. We wipe them out handily and mostly split their territory. I'm not a big city builder, so I've got 4 cities of 10+ size and much better tech than the Ottos, who have built about a dozen cities 5-8 size. Around the mid-1800s I decide the island wasn't big enough for the two of us (plus I got to liberate two city states they conquered). Artillery makes very short work of cities and can't even be damaged (I'm referring to the specific industrial era siege unit, not artillery in general). So after destroying the Ottos and recolonizing some of the land (I think I got 8 cities total after all that) my island was indeed "my island."

On the other island the Romans destroyed the Greeks then destroyed almost all of the Siamese. Then the Japanese destroyed the Romans. So it's the crippled, backwards Siamese, myself as the fairly advanced Babylonians, and the massive order-of-magnitude-big Japanese left (plus city states). I keep teching up and barely stay afloat in terms of happiness and gold (can't make enough of either) and I decide to go for the Spaceship victory. I had maybe a third done before running out of turns (and I was a couple hundred points behind the Japanese). Fun game though my computer was really chugging on turn ends by the end of it, maybe I should play smaller maps.

This is the second game where one faction ate up an entire island to become unstoppable. Settings were:
Difficulty - Prince (standard)
Map - Continents
Size - Standard
Speed - Standard

**Monk** · 09-24-2010, 08:42

Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good

Just lost a 500 turn game (due to running out of time!). There were two main continents and a few good sized islands. I was on the smaller of the two continents as the Babylonians. I shared it with the Persians and Ottomans and 3 city states. Around the 600 AD mark or so (don't remember exactly) the Ottomans proposed we wipe out the Persians. Fine with me; I coveted some of their city locations. We wipe them out handily and mostly split their territory. I'm not a big city builder, so I've got 4 cities of 10+ size and much better tech than the Ottos, who have built about a dozen cities 5-8 size. Around the mid-1800s I decide the island wasn't big enough for the two of us (plus I got to liberate two city states they conquered). Artillery makes very short work of cities and can't even be damaged (I'm referring to the specific industrial era siege unit, not artillery in general). So after destroying the Ottos and recolonizing some of the land (I think I got 8 cities total after all that) my island was indeed "my island."

On the other island the Romans destroyed the Greeks then destroyed almost all of the Siamese. Then the Japanese destroyed the Romans. So it's the crippled, backwards Siamese, myself as the fairly advanced Babylonians, and the massive order-of-magnitude-big Japanese left (plus city states). I keep teching up and barely stay afloat in terms of happiness and gold (can't make enough of either) and I decide to go for the Spaceship victory. I had maybe a third done before running out of turns (and I was a couple hundred points behind the Japanese). Fun game though my computer was really chugging on turn ends by the end of it, maybe I should play smaller maps.

This is the second game where one faction ate up an entire island to become unstoppable. Settings were:
Difficulty - Prince (standard)
Map - Continents
Size - Standard
Speed - Standard

I've noticed that performance degrades over time due to civs producing so many units, be they workers, settlers or military. Try bumping down your terrain settings, it seems to have the biggest impact (aside from AA).

**LeftEyeNine** · 09-24-2010, 09:16

Performance degrading over time was essentially existent with Civ4 too. After a certain point, the producers had revealed a simple change of "0" to "1" in a config file so that, at the cost of game crashing if you ever Alt-tabbed, more resources were made available to the game to overcome the "obesity" of the game progressed to an extent.

Optimizations are sure to arrive as soon as enough player feedback is obtained.

**God Emperor** · 09-24-2010, 10:04

I got civ V.. I am ever so excited :D

**frogbeastegg** · 09-24-2010, 17:33

It installed without issue

Well, aside from taking forever and a day to consider my CD key; I thought it was going to get rejected. Must be something to that old saying about third time lucky, although I expect it's got more to do with my being here half a day after unlock.

Do people want to post PC specs and game performance? Might be useful for reference. Anyone interested in doing so should post a rough guide to the settings and game size they are using, and whether they're in the late game or early game.

I browsed the tech tree poster in detail last night. Wow, the classical era is short! It's a single layer of techs. Considering the amount of techs there used to be in classical that's somewhat shocking. I'm tempted to do a tech count for this and vanilla civ 4 and see how they compare as somehow Civ 5's looks quite ... light.

Anywho, defrag is running post install. Once it's done the frog shall play the rest of the day away. The Empire of the Amphibian rises again and anyone getting in the way will be squished.