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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    So the Netherlands will give you welfare if you sit on your ass all day and toke up but they won't help cover the costs of handicap children many of whom will become better people than the drug addict whores and scumbags who are causing the state to be in the red.

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    It's just a think-tank all party's have them, libs think tank is composed of hardcore libertarians, party itself is much more moderate I would give this zero chance of passing in the parlement, but creepy thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    It's just a think-tank all party's have them, libs think tank is composed of hardcore libertarians, party itself is much more moderate I would give this zero chance of passing in the parlement, but creepy thoughts.
    Liberal? Hardcore Liberal? They are plain Nazi, just plain Nazi with all their eugenics....

    Of course, another way is pull out all social welfare system, and let everyone have a chance purely on their feet (symbolically), but did have social care for handicapped persons, like what they do here, we have no social welfare system and this kind of crazy tought don't spawn because no greedy people try to got more money for themselves.

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    They aren't nazi's, and this isn't about social-darwinism, they are free-market anarchists who believe every tax is legalized theft.

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    But it's much easier to throw around emotive / divisive terms than address the issue. "Play the man, not the ball" as Sir Humphry would say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    But it's much easier to throw around emotive / divisive terms than address the issue. "Play the man, not the ball" as Sir Humphry would say.

    Emotional arguments are valid arguments here as it's an ethical issue, it's reducing a human being to a net benefit. I am guilty of doing that as well in immigration debates, but comming here is a choice being born disabled isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    They aren't nazi's, and this isn't about social-darwinism, they are free-market anarchists who believe every tax is legalized theft.
    tell them to leave the country and fetch up for themselves. a man who avoid paying taxes without economical poverty reasons, needs fate worse than death because they are the vampires of the society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cute Wolf View Post
    tell them to leave the country and fetch up for themselves. a man who avoid paying taxes without economical poverty reasons, needs fate worse than death because they are the vampires of the society.
    Can I live, I am very fond of the libertarian idea's on society, remember it's a think-tank, they are supposed to take it to the extreme. It's brain-gymnastics, purily theoratical wizardry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cute Wolf View Post
    tell them to leave the country and fetch up for themselves. a man who avoid paying taxes without economical poverty reasons, needs fate worse than death because they are the vampires of the society.
    Off on a tangent are we, or just misunderstood? It's about allocation of resources, not paying less.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Emotional arguments are valid arguments here as it's an ethical issue, it's reducing a human being to a net benefit. I am guilty of doing that as well in immigration debates, but comming here is a choice being born disabled isn't.
    No they're not, as I could easily reply that they are killing many others unnecessarily due to reduced funding...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Off on a tangent are we, or just misunderstood? It's about allocation of resources, not paying less.



    No they're not, as I could easily reply that they are killing many others unnecessarily due to reduced funding...

    actually it is about paying less. the goverment wont spend money on it, cuz they will spend it on something else, they wont spend the money cuz the wont charge the taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    No they're not, as I could easily reply that they are killing many others unnecessarily due to reduced funding...

    But we can easily afford it, do we want to. When the morality of something is questioned its an ethical question, morality is emotion, or instrumental to emotions of others.

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