Re: Germans to the american right - 'would you cool it with the Hitler references?'
42!!!!Originally Posted by Fragony
Errr...I mean...
It is just and interesting tidbit...
are the american right-wing 'tea party' uses of the Nazi/Hitler references abusive? yes
..are they constructive dialogue? no
..will the crazies care who they might offend in germany?...i'd say no.
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Re: Germans to the american right - 'would you cool it with the Hitler references?'
You killed millions being led by a madman who was pursuing an ideolgy which had no bases in fact\
Quit getting your panties in wad because some Americans 5,000 miles away use hyperbolic messages about him to stir up an apathetic and uniformed populace
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Re: Germans to the american right - 'would you cool it with the Hitler references?'
No, I didn't.
I'm offended.
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Re: Germans to the american right - 'would you cool it with the Hitler references?'
As you should be. No free pass for any European nation minus England. Holocaust was European not GermanNo, I didn't.
I'm offended.
Re: Germans to the american right - 'would you cool it with the Hitler references?'
Don't blame today's generation for the mistakes of the ''Greatest'' generation.
Re: Germans to the american right - 'would you cool it with the Hitler references?'
That's a typical thing for a Fascist oppressor to say. They just want him all to themselves.
Edit: Exactly! Where were these hypocrites during the last administration?
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Re: Germans to the american right - 'would you cool it with the Hitler references?'
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
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Re: Germans to the american right - 'would you cool it with the Hitler references?'
With all due respect for England's difficulties and war effort, I disagree with your free pass.
The history of those areas UK that were occupied by Germany saw the same mechanisms as elsewhere in Europe, In particular, no protests whatsoever were lodged against German anti-Jewish measures, the local British authorities happily co-operated with the Germans, and the Jewish community was rounded up and shipped off to the gas chambers by the locals.
Re: Germans to the american right - 'would you cool it with the Hitler references?'
A whole article about American Hitler references that ignores the Left's constant comparisons during the Bush administration? Really?.... Really?!?
Where were the 'Germans' then (more precisely, one Charles Hawley), out to lunch? I cannot even begin to quantify how many times I heard 9/11 compared to the burning of the Reichstag.
Either the author is ignorant or trying to make a cheap ideological shot, probably a bit of both. The reference to Iott, the reenactor I made a thread about earlier, leads me to beleive he was really reaching to make his point.
On another note, comparing Hitler to Obama is somewhat insulting to Hitler, who was actually a very effective politician until he lost his mental faculties. Obama is more like your typical South American two-bit populist, ushered in on charisma alone and quickly fizzled out.
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Re: Germans to the american right - 'would you cool it with the Hitler references?'
I agree about the silly partisan nature of the article, but this!!!On another note, comparing Hitler to Obama is somewhat insulting to Hitler
Re: Germans to the american right - 'would you cool it with the Hitler references?'
There is nothing partisan about the article.
The left simply happens to be in power in the US at the moment. Hence it is currently the left's turn to take public flak, mostly coming from the right. The article is about the easy tossing about of Hitler comparisons in public debate, which is considered offensive to many this side of the Atlantic.
The left is not at all ignored.
A few years ago it was indeed the left which was criticised for easy Hitler references. Germany is not accustomed to wanton comparisons to Hitler. That is, although many taboos are waning, still not really done in public debate. You'll note that the article describes how the very much leftwing German minister of Justice, speaking to very leftwing trade unionists, was forced to resign simply for agreeing that Bush', like Thatcher and Hitler, used war as a welcome distraction from domestic difficulties. This during a rather low ebb in German - American relations.
I disagree. Hitler was a veru effective politician even after losing his mind. No politician in the history of Europe has been as effective as Hitler in bringing such a major power to such a complete moral, economic, military bankruptcy in such a short amount of time.
Re: Germans to the american right - 'would you cool it with the Hitler references?'
It helps to read a bit further than the introduction:
Maybe that wasn't posted in the Backroom but that alone doesn't mean it didn't happen. Not that I would remember it anyway, I wasn't all that interested in politics in 2002.
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Re: Germans to the american right - 'would you cool it with the Hitler references?'
Of course not, but both the article and the thread title single out the American right when in fact both sides are guilty of it.
Hitler's national socialism was really just another form of democrat socialism, which is socialist like the Nazi's were with their universal healthcare and gun control laws, so IMO Hitler was a NAZI. Boom! Godwin!
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Re: Germans to the american right - 'would you cool it with the Hitler references?'
Nazi references are annoying, always visualise someone poking the argument of doom-stick 'what no aplausse?que?' -pokes again- 'nazi!' Still nothing...
Re: Germans to the american right - 'would you cool it with the Hitler references?'
Happens both ways...
Bush is a Nazi
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Re: Germans to the american right - 'would you cool it with the Hitler references?'
Should they care about trivialising such things as the Third reich and Hitler? Yes
Will they care no cos they have pretty much infantalized the discussion on there infotainment shows.
Does that make it ok then
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