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    Sweden is bracing for the release of a controversial book detailing the private life of King Carl XVI Gustaf, who has announced he will comment on the book during a Thursday press conference. (Ed Comment: He did NOT comment on the book.)

    While the King usually holds a press conference at the conclusion of his annual elk hunt, which ends on Thursday, this year’s event is expected to draw more journalists than usual as it coincides with the release of a new, controversial book about the Swedish monarch.

    The book, entitled “Carl XVI Gustaf - Den motvillige monarken” (‘Carl XVI Gustaf - The reluctant monarch’), reportedly provides a rare and detailed look into the King’s private life, including details of love affairs, wild parties with Swedish models, and connections to the underworld.

    Written over the last two years by a team of three investigative journalists and authors, Thomas Sjöberg, Tove Meyer and Deanne Rauscher, the book has sparked numerous and wide-ranging debate in Sweden about the limits of the free press and how the Swedish media have covered the King.

    After word of the book’s impending release broke earlier this week, Swedish Royal Court officials admitted that the press conference following the annual elk hunt at the Halle- och Hunneberg reserve on the shores of Vänern in western Sweden may be the busiest ever.

    As of Wednesday, the Royal Court of Sweden had not yet received advance copies of the book, according to press director Nina Eldh, so it had no comment on the publication.

    However, the King has agreed to a press conference on Thursday afternoon, where he is expected to be inundated with many questions unrelated to the elk hunt.

    "The King will certainly comment on it in any case," said Eldh, who is fully aware that there will be many additional journalists at the press briefing this year.

    "We have been here before. However, the King is not holding the press conference for the book. It is a press conference for the hunt," she added.

    Anticipation is so great and sensitivity so high that the editor of the Aftonbladet newspaper, which on Wednesday published a summary of some of the allegations detailed in the book, also published a defence of the paper’s decision to publish entitled “Truth or libel”.

    “Much of what is claimed in the book has been rumoured for years, but it hasn’t been possible to verify,” wrote Aftonbladet editor Jan Helin.

    “It’s relevant to give the public knowledge – not only that Sweden’s head of state has been charged in a new book, but also of what.”

    According to the newspaper, the book contains a number of details about the King’s wild parties, an alleged affair, as well as claims that Swedish security service Säpo pressured women to turn over compromising pictures of the Swedish head of state.

    One of the book’s chapters tells of the King’s numerous private parties hosted at a Stockholm club run by gangster Mille Markovic in the early 1990s.

    According to the book, the King and a group of friends regularly had the club to themselves on Monday evenings for nights filled with elaborate meals and capped with liaisons in a whirlpool with scantily clad women aspiring to be models.

    According to Markovic, he enjoyed having the King as a patron because it minimized the chances of unwanted visits by the police.

    The book also tells of alleged year-long love affair the King had with a Swedish singer and model. According to the Expressen newspaper, the object of the King’s affection was Camilla Henemark, who was born to a Nigerian father and Swedish mother and who was once a founding member of the band Army of Lovers.

    In 1994 she also hosted an erotic-themed programme on Sweden’s TV3 called Seventh Heaven.

    The relationship reportedly lasted about a year in the late 1990s and with the knowledge of Queen Silvia.

    According to the book, the King was quite smitten by Henemark, who goes by the stage name La Camilla.

    “The King sometimes looked like a love-crazed school boy and on one occasion they talked about running away together to an isolated exotic island,” reads the book.

    The book also touches on some of the measures employed to ensure the King’s alleged wild side remained hidden from the Swedish public.

    In some instances, Säpo agents were deployed to search the homes of different women in order to confiscate pictures and negatives from the King’s private parties.

    According to the Aftonbladet report about the book, Säpo agents secretly snooped around in various flats and otherwise pressured women who partied with the King.

    “If the rolls of film and pictures and negatives aren’t turned over some unpleasant things will happen,” reads the book.

    Speaking with Aftonbladet, Säpo spokesperson Patrik Peter would neither confirm nor deny the allegations.

    “We have no information to offer and we’ haven’t read the book,” he said.

    The books reliance on anonymous sources, as well as the decision to publish intimate details about the King’s private life, has led to a debate about how Sweden’s royals are scrutinised by the media.

    Upon hearing about the book, producers of Uppdrag Granskning, the Sveriges Television (SVT) investigative news programme, met with the authors last summer to discuss possible collaboration.

    But the journalists employed by Sweden's public broadcaster ultimately decided not to join forces with the "Reluctant monarch" authors.

    "We decided that we maybe had higher standards for judging sources than what they had," Uppdrag granskning reporter Janne Josefsson told Expressen.

    "The image of the King has been rather one-dimensional and people do not know who he is. I think that in principle, it is good that biographies of this type are written," Bengt Gustavsson, executive editor of celebrity magazine Hänt Extra, who has not yet read the book, told the TT news agency.

    Gustavsson also has no problem with much of the content for the book being based on anonymous sources.

    "I assume that they follow journalistic rules and they are not alone in using anonymous sources. That is why there is informant protection," he said.

    Many probably think that exposing this kind of information would be like sitting on a goldmine for gossip columns, but it is not the case, emphasised Gustavsson.

    "It has never been commercially feasible for the celebrity press to write negatively about the royal family. People who want to read about the royal family are monarchists and those who are republicans do not buy our publications," he said.

    Sweden’s press ombudswoman Yrsa Stenius said the royal family can be covered like anyone else.

    "It is not wrong to write about the royal family as long as it is relevant to the family's reputation and position. However, it must be accurate. Even the King's family has a right to privacy," she said.
    I wish we had such a cool monarch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullheadhq View Post
    I wish we had such a cool monarch.
    You may like to furnish this thread with, you know, an argument or something?

    Edit: Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by alh_p View Post
    You may like to furnish this thread with, you know, an argument or something?
    Fixed
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    What we have a cool monarch, daughter of a Nazi spy who tipped of the Germans over operation Market Garden and personally flew nazi's to Argentina

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    What we have a cool monarch, daughter of a Nazi spy who tipped of the Germans over operation Market Garden and personally flew nazi's to Argentina
    Implying Bernhard is a monarch.
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    You allow your nobles to have sex with black people?
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    Carl Gustaf isn't an example why monarchs should be beheaded.










    He is the example why monarchs should be beheaded.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Can't possibly be worse than the Dutch royal family

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Carl Gustaf isn't an example why monarchs should be beheaded.










    He is the example why monarchs should be beheaded.
    Where's the example?
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    I like how the most egalitarian country in the world still has a monarch. Sounds like they conduct themselves a bit differently from our royals though...
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Can't possibly be worse than the Dutch royal family
    1. They secretly allied with Hitler, because of their admiration of his nationalist policies
    2. He has praised brutal dictators for "such effiecent government"
    3. He displays a complete and total lack of respect for the law, and regularly breaks safety laws, enviromental laws and traffic laws. Just because you can't be punished shouldn't mean that you have to make an effort to break them...
    4. He's illiterate
    5. His view of women is that they are both physically and mentally weak, and unfit for jobs involving responsibility by default
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Heh, I thought he sounded quite modern and progressive from his lifestyle...
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    1. They secretly allied with Hitler, because of their admiration of his nationalist policies
    2. He has praised brutal dictators for "such effiecent government"
    3. He displays a complete and total lack of respect for the law, and regularly breaks safety laws, enviromental laws and traffic laws. Just because you can't be punished shouldn't mean that you have to make an effort to break them...
    4. He's illiterate
    5. His view of women is that they are both physically and mentally weak, and unfit for jobs involving responsibility by default
    Could be worse, could have been a deserter, nazi-collaborator and a war-criminal. It's a mistake to think that all the nazi's are gone nowadays, Dutch royal family is up to it's neck. That little-junta slut of our crown-prince, these family's have a bit of a shared history. Bernard Lippe, father of our current queen spied for the Nazi's, tipped them of the Market Garden operation, and personally flew out nazi key figures to Argentinia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Could be worse, could have been a deserter, nazi-collaborator and a war-criminal. It's a mistake to think that all the nazi's are gone nowadays, Dutch royal family is up to it's neck. That little-junta slut of our crown-prince, these family's have a bit of a shared history. Bernard Lippe, father of our current queen spied for the Nazi's, tipped them of the Market Garden operation, and personally flew out nazi key figures to Argentinia.
    He is.

    And if Sweden had been invaded, I have no doubts we'd have similar stories on them. They did not, however, so the help they gave Hitler was limited because of that fact, not because they didn't want to help him more.


    Wanna chip in on a guillotine, Frags?
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    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    // snaps fingers

    Garcon!

    Glad we share a contempt HT it's rediculous that these muppets still exist in what are otherwise the most modern countries in the world, Dutchland and Vikinglands monarhies wut. It's worse here though unlike Sweden the queen is still part of the government, she has real power, absolutely unacceptable

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    I'd be scared to party with him, he might stare at me uneasily and call me funny names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    // snaps fingers

    Garcon!

    Glad we share a contempt HT it's rediculous that these muppets still exist in what are otherwise the most modern countries in the world, Dutchland and Vikinglands monarhies wut. It's worse here though unlike Sweden the queen is still part of the government, she has real power, absolutely unacceptable
    Well, I quite like the monarchy, but we should seriously reconsider the monarchy when Alexander is crowned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullheadhq View Post
    Well, I quite like the monarchy, but we should seriously reconsider the monarchy when Alexander is crowned.
    What for, for betraying the allies causing hundreds of dead US UK and Polish troops? For personally flying out nazi-officials? Or being responsible for a hundred of thousand deadIndonesians? For still refusing to pay taxes over money accumulated with the opium trade? For the pink ballets?

    And don't get me started on the waterprince (legendary for letting others pay his rondjes, like his mother he never pays ask anyone in Soest and surroundings, nobody takes any orders from the Amsberg family) with his junta-whore who spends 3000 euro a week on clothes while normal Argentinians are starving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    For the pink ballets?
    Isn't that a conspiricy theory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    1. They secretly allied with Hitler, because of their admiration of his nationalist policies
    2. He has praised brutal dictators for "such effiecent government"
    3. He displays a complete and total lack of respect for the law, and regularly breaks safety laws, enviromental laws and traffic laws. Just because you can't be punished shouldn't mean that you have to make an effort to break them...
    4. He's illiterate
    5. His view of women is that they are both physically and mentally weak, and unfit for jobs involving responsibility by default
    1. The most pro Hitler royal family member was his father (who never was king), who died in an aircrash with his wife when the current king was 1. The king at the time, Gustav V wasn't pro Hitler at all.
    2. He said that Brunei was more open that most countries since you could easily visit the sultan. Also see 4.
    3. Yep, and agreed completely.
    4. He's dyslectic and never recieved proper training to overcome it. He's also very prone for for mouthly blunders, like naming the wrong city or poorly worded statements. He also doesn't appear to be very bright.
    5. Not seen this one, but he should be at a bit of loss then, when his daughter gets his job.

    It's mostly the popularity of the crown princess that keeps the popularity for the monarchy up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullheadhq View Post
    Isn't that a conspiricy theory?
    No it really isn't there is a pedophile network of officials in both Belgium and here, see the Demmink controversity for reference, but I'm glad we agree on the rest of it.

    http://www.klokkenluideronline.nl/ar...overzicht.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    No it really isn't there is a pedophile network of officials in both Belgium and here, see the Demmink controversity for reference, but I'm glad we agree on the rest of it.

    http://www.klokkenluideronline.nl/ar...overzicht.html
    Interesting, but how is the monarchy connected to it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullheadhq View Post
    Interesting, but how is the monarchy connected to it?
    Rumours of prince Klaus attending the pink ballets

    Micha Kat is a former NRC-journalist by the way, got too nosy I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    1. The most pro Hitler royal family member was his father (who never was king), who died in an aircrash with his wife when the current king was 1. The king at the time, Gustav V wasn't pro Hitler at all.
    2. He said that Brunei was more open that most countries since you could easily visit the sultan. Also see 4.
    3. Yep, and agreed completely.
    4. He's dyslectic and never recieved proper training to overcome it. He's also very prone for for mouthly blunders, like naming the wrong city or poorly worded statements. He also doesn't appear to be very bright.
    5. Not seen this one, but he should be at a bit of loss then, when his daughter gets his job.

    It's mostly the popularity of the crown princess that keeps the popularity for the monarchy up.
    Is this a proper time to joke about the intelligence of swedes?



    Well, at least your princess doesn't think she can talk to dead people and angels, like ours....
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Is this a proper time to joke about the intelligence of swedes?



    Well, at least your princess doesn't think she can talk to dead people and angels, like ours....
    Or trees, trees just don't respond even if you have a royal pump as trees simply can't, they have no mouth, but good luck explaining that to royals.

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    Hoo teh hell kares zo lung az dey're hawt, yoooo!

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