Which are better: Peltastai Makedonikoi (PM) or Hypaspistai (H)?

**boxleitnerb** · 11-17-2010, 11:07

How can you tell the H to use a specific weapon? Does it work with ALT too like if I want a javelin cavalry unit to charge something instead of throwing their things?
Why are the H not as good at stopping cav as hoplites? Their defense stats, mass, moral are the same, they do have spears as well.

Also about the lethality rating...they have almost twice the weapon lethality than the PM. How does that go into the equation?

Thanks for your answers so far, but I am still a bit confused :)

**Fluvius Camillus** · 11-17-2010, 11:20

Originally Posted by boxleitnerb

How can you tell the H to use a specific weapon? Does it work with ALT too like if I want a javelin cavalry unit to charge something instead of throwing their things?
Why are the H not as good at stopping cav as hoplites? Their defense stats, mass, moral are the same, they do have spears as well.

Also about the lethality rating...they have almost twice the weapon lethality than the PM. How does that go into the equation?

Thanks for your answers so far, but I am still a bit confused :)

I think so, it was either ordering them to attack a second time or alt-attacking. They will use their spears again for a short period of time.

If you let a unit stand on the spot and order nothing while a cavalry group charges them, their status will say ready.

With the Hypaspistai they will be ready with their shield line closed and a sword in the hand.

The Hoplitai will stand ready with their shield line closed and a SPEAR in the hand.

IIRC this made a big difference in stopping a charge.

@Lazy O

I wouldn't say they are useless, they are just not as cost effective as Pantodapoi phalanx, (Thracian) peltasts and thureophorio.thorakitai.

If your empire stretches far and wide your royal army can usually be outfitted with elite heavy infantry and cavalry. You wouldn't bother with cost effective medium infantry for a prolonged campaign.

~Fluvius