Did Zeus never teach Athena to have some tolerance with Muslims?

[rory_20_uk]

I have had female friends who think that men should never hit women - even if they hit men first. Equality = men are punch-bags... Feminists often appear to want to keep all the historic "ladies first" / "women and children first" aspects and in the next breath be equal in everything else that they've not got an advantage in.

I'm sorry, but regardless of who hits me I am allowed to defend myself and yes in some cases that would include violence to almost any sub-group of individuals. I'm not going to look to beat up women, nor look to pick on persons in wheel chairs, but if there were two attacking me with knives I'd undertake measures to protect my own well-being before hangups about their gender. If that ends with bruises or broken bones so be it - as long as it doesn't end up with my liver skewered.

Violence is prehistoric. And civilisation is a thin veneer (a few thousand years tops) over a hell of a lot longer where the world is simply two camps - your friends / tribe and targets / resources to be killed and/or taken. Anyone who has played a contact sport knows the adrenaline high prior to the match starting and the way one can jog off with narry a twinge yet wake up the next morning with agony from aches and hitherto-unseen bruises. We're built to fight. Sure, we can think a bit more these days, but when the stress hormones kick in, we brain redistributes blood to the more "ancient" areas of the brain where introspection = death.

[Beskar]

I have had female friends who think that men should never hit women - even if they hit men first. Equality = men are punch-bags... Feminists often appear to want to keep all the historic "ladies first" / "women and children first" aspects and in the next breath be equal in everything else that they've not got an advantage in.

I remember this off-duty police officer who got beaten up by a bunch of kids (13-15 year olds, a group of them) in the middle of the street and ended up in hospital. The thing was, he wasn't allowed to fight back or he would have lost his job.

Sad times.

[Cute Wolf]

well, hitting a teenager who can hit you back is "definitely had more risk", and they are borderline of the "children" definition.

the problem is they hit 4-5 years old children, and women who don't put a fight back...

well... I was rather surprised when some comments here implies : women equality = they are equal to be hit and assumed they can fight back...

[Louis VI the Fat]

the problem is they hit 4-5 years old children, and women who don't put a fight back...

Well here's an idea: don't bring your kids to public demonstrations.

There was already a lot of tension in Greece between the native population and the (illegal) immigrants. Not to mention, after having been brutalised by a Muslim colonial power for centuries, Islamic shows of force are a natural provocation in Greece. So leave the kids elsewhere when one decides to stage a massive open air Islamic religious manifestation.

[HoreTore]

Well here's an idea: don't bring your kids to public demonstrations.

This was a religious service, not a demonstration, Louis. Which they had to conduct outside because they haven't got any other suitable place for it.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Schengen, fast international bullet trains, and a single Euro are indispensible to me. The bliss of travelling from Bordeaux to Paris to Brussels to Amsterdam within a few hours in a bullet train, without border hassles, and without the need to carry three different currencies just to have a cup of coffee - it is all sheer genius.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Schengen, fast international bullet trains, and a single Euro are indispensible to me. The bliss of travelling from Bordeaux to Paris to Brussels to Amsterdam within a few hours in a bullet train, without border hassles, and without the need to carry three different currencies just to have a cup of coffee - it is all sheer genius.

I love it.

[Fragony]

Schengen, fast international bullet trains, and a single Euro are indispensible to me. The bliss of travelling from Bordeaux to Paris to Brussels to Amsterdam within a few hours in a bullet train, without border hassles, and without the need to carry three different currencies just to have a cup of coffee - it is all sheer genius.

Why on earth would you want to visit Amsterdam?? The barren womb of Europe nowadays, all the neon-light in the world can't hide that it has become incredibly&painfully boring, labour's fetish for controling each and every aspect of your life and their neverending need of coin has turned this once lovely playful lady into a tired bloated whore.

[Tellos Athenaios]

well, hitting a teenager who can hit you back is "definitely had more risk", and they are borderline of the "children" definition.

the problem is they hit 4-5 years old children, and women who don't put a fight back...

well... I was rather surprised when some comments here implies : women equality = they are equal to be hit and assumed they can fight back...

None of those people should've been attacked in the first place. The whole point is: demonstration OK, violence not OK.

With the notion of women being equal to men therefore violence against women is the same as violence against men you should understand that women are given equal status to men in a somewhat idealised sense. In reality most women do not have parity with men in physical conflict, simply a matter of greater bulk alone.
But the point to convey here is not that women are de facto equals of men in physical confrontation (it all depends). The point is to convey violence towards any people who are peacefully going about their business is not OK, not even if they are extremely physically fit men in the prime of their life. Sanctity of your body. Your body is not to be abused and/or mutilated by someone else at will, no matter who you are or who the other is.