Did Zeus never teach Athena to have some tolerance with Muslims?

[Rhyfelwyr]

Why is there any difference between a strong male hitting a weaker male, and a strong male hitting a weaker female?

I do generally agree people should only pick on people their own size. But even weak males and females are different scenarios, its not all physical, males are more mentally predisposed to fighting/defending themselves.

The biological and social aspects probably complement each other, rather than only one being relevant, IMO.

[Furunculus]

I do generally agree people should only pick on people their own size. But even weak males and females are different scenarios, its not all physical, males are more mentally predisposed to fighting/defending themselves.

The biological and social aspects probably complement each other, rather than only one being relevant, IMO.

by iron principle i only start fights with people i know i can wreck, and by extension avoid being wrecked.

but then, i haven't had a fight in a fvery long time...........

if a fight needs to be fought, then it needs to be won, otherwise why are you doing it?

[Beskar]

I do generally agree people should only pick on people their own size. But even weak males and females are different scenarios, its not all physical, males are more mentally predisposed to fighting/defending themselves.

The biological and social aspects probably complement each other, rather than only one being relevant, IMO.

Not really, a mother defending the nest is a bigger threat than a typical male.

[HoreTore]

I do generally agree people should only pick on people their own size. But even weak males and females are different scenarios, its not all physical, males are more mentally predisposed to fighting/defending themselves.

The biological and social aspects probably complement each other, rather than only one being relevant, IMO.

*sigh*

Allright, let's say you have a male and female that are exactly the same when it comes to both strength AND mental status.

Is there NOW any difference between them?

[Rhyfelwyr]

*sigh*

Allright, let's say you have a male and female that are exactly the same when it comes to both strength AND mental status.

Is there NOW any difference between them?

No.

[HoreTore]

No.

So then you agree with me: it's not bad to hit women, it's bad to hit those less capable of fighting than you are yourself.

[Kagemusha]

Im with Strike and Rory on this one. There is nothing glorious about violence.

[Vladimir]

Im with Strike and Rory on this one. There is nothing glorious about violence.

Well that's just wrong. Violence IS glory. Ever hear any tales of glorious manners and etiquette? We may be dealing with a translation issue here but words like glory, valor, and honor incorporate violence into their code. The difference is in how it's used.

Relating back to Islam: Violence is, inherent in the system; however, the system matters less than the people in it as proven in this incident.

[Kagemusha]

Well that's just wrong. Violence IS glory. Ever hear any tales of glorious manners and etiquette? We may be dealing with a translation issue here but words like glory, valor, and honor incorporate violence into their code. The difference is in how it's used.

Relating back to Islam: Violence is, inherent in the system; however, the system matters less than the people in it as proven in this incident.

Im talking about the real thing not about any stories. But it could be that in my language the word has different meaning then in yours.

Be it may that people love to hear stories about how a gentleman defended vigorously a helpless maiden in stress, from bunch of thugs. Or a soldier made a glorious final stand sacrificing himself and saving his whole platoon in the process. For some reason you hardly hear tales about when the gentleman got himself killed in a similar situation or soldier calling for her mother before drowning on his own blood filling his lungs. while dragging his legless torso in panic, just to get away from a battle.

[Fragony]

So then you agree with me: it's not bad to hit women, it's bad to hit those less capable of fighting than you are yourself.

And the avarage male just happens to be stronger. Repulsion against hitting women is repulsion against treating them like something you are allowed to abuse instead of treating them like an equal. I'd say women are superior really, fine with being their slave really they are much smarter, frees the mind for more important things such as bashing skulls.

@K, what's wrong with, it's much more weak to avoid it's simplicity. When you comfort a friend he knows enough when you squeeze his shoulder, you understand, that's enough. Same with busting his nose when he pisses you of. Advanced communication made simple, or should we go in therapy instead

[Rhyfelwyr]

I don't understand why physical violence is seen as so bad anyway.

If you think about it, if we see violence or harm against a person as being either physical or mental, then surely mental harm is more direct. Physical pain is only bad because it translated into mental anguish.

For example, my Gran, being a bit old fashioned, used to hit me with a strap or a spoon at times, but I always found that less bad than having a telling off that lasts half and hour, or having a football or whatever taken off me.

[HoreTore]

Yes I do. Being a woman and being physically weaker tend to be pretty much synonymous. So you should never find yourself in a situation where you have to hit a woman.

In short; everyone now agrees with HoreTore's opening statement.

I don't understand why physical violence is seen as so bad anyway.

If you think about it, if we see violence or harm against a person as being either physical or mental, then surely mental harm is more direct. Physical pain is only bad because it translated into mental anguish.

For example, my Gran, being a bit old fashioned, used to hit me with a strap or a spoon at times, but I always found that less bad than having a telling off that lasts half and hour, or having a football or whatever taken off me.

Because any abusive behaviour is seen as negative. Yelling or whatever is just as unnecessary. Want to end negative behaviour? Simply reward positive behaviour.

[Kagemusha]

I don't understand why physical violence is seen as so bad anyway.

If you think about it, if we see violence or harm against a person as being either physical or mental, then surely mental harm is more direct. Physical pain is only bad because it translated into mental anguish.

For example, my Gran, being a bit old fashioned, used to hit me with a strap or a spoon at times, but I always found that less bad than having a telling off that lasts half and hour, or having a football or whatever taken off me.

Some may think that as violence.Had your granny broken your nose, finger or a limb because of your behaviour, you might think otherwise.

[Rhyfelwyr]

So then you agree with me: it's not bad to hit women, it's bad to hit those less capable of fighting than you are yourself.

Yes I do. Being a woman and being physically weaker tend to be pretty much synonymous. So you should never find yourself in a situation where you have to hit a woman.