Star Wars: Fall of the Order [Concluded]

[Choxorn]

There will never be a game that goes by where I do not make a pun about your name when you die. It's my thing now.

Whenever you see me say the word "yonder", you didn't survive. Just so you know.

Well, phooey, I would have just skipped ahead to "Death is Yonder and choxorn both died" if I knew that.

[pevergreen]

There is no case on warman.

[Double A]

There is no case on warman.

If there is one, it's very brief.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Goody, goody. Okay, if you were to receive a role PM update, then you've got one. Inform me of any missing data or errors that you see.

If you did not get a PM update at this point, then you did not learn a new force power.

[Choxorn]

You seem to have missed one, I did not get the PM telling me that I rise from the dead and become a Sith-killing machine of awesomeness.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You seem to have missed one, I did not get the PM telling me that I rise from the dead and become a Sith-killing machine of awesomeness.

That comes later. Patience young one.

[Nightbringer]

vote:wideyedwanderer
for reasons stated yesterday

pever, please elaborate a bit

[pevergreen]

There is no case on warman.

I can't elaborate more than this.

[Nightbringer]

I can't elaborate more than this.

so why are you voting him? is there some reason you cant reveal? why not vote WeW instead?

[Kagemusha]

so why are you voting him? is there some reason you cant reveal? why not vote WeW instead?

Is there a case against WeW then? This is getting mighty confusing. Ignoramus and Jooray fight to a standstill, then Jooray is attacked during the night and fights the attacker to a standstill. Did Ignoramus attack Jooray during the night or was it someone else? Last is it or there a case against Warman?

[robbiecon]

Well, so far pevergreen's information has been as unreliable as a sandwich is a snake pit (whatever that might mean).

As for Seon's point against Diana, many people have been quiet this game, and some have been killed. NONE of them were Sith.

However it's not so much Seon's vote that concerns me, but more so the vote from Sasaki immediately afterwards.

For this reason, I will Vote: Saskai Kojiro 2, a vote immediately after it was suggested, where you couldn't even put her full name down, never mind even say you agree with Seon, and that's why your voting.

[Renata]

I kinda agree with that vote -- Sasaki has been different since his resurrection. I'd like to believe he wouldn't give himself away like that, but I'm not positive.

However, vote: wideyedwanderer

[pevergreen]

Sasaki, i'm not sure about.

Unvote: Warman

Ig didn't fight jooray last night, but the fact that joooray stopped Ig is not a good thing.

We know that he is at least on the path away from the light side of the force - where it takes him we aren't 100% sure.

He is currently equal in power to the strongest amongst you.

My info has never been from me, I'm just a conduit.

And as a conduit, we got another result like the one joooray received.

susceptible, dark side already present. Problem is, what do we do. At this point, I'm leaning towards a second investigation, to see if that gets anything extra.

We also got an interesting result on another person. "The light side is not strong with this one."

I'll be following that up as well.

Something has struck me a bit off about a number of players though.

I wonder why Jooray even bothered scanning dcmort a second time when he seemed so certain that he was scum. It's like he was expecting him to come up innocent and just wanted another point to try to save him. There is still a nagging thought in the back of my mind asking why a Sith would try to do something like this however.

So you agree with Psycho that I am seem neutral? Good, because that means I am controlling my emotions and not letting fear betray my thoughts. It is only through balance that the Jedi will overcome this crisis. I would hardly consider appearing neutral because of trying to consider all angles of thought a bad thing, but if you do than so be it. The only other option than being neutral is bandwagoning as far as I see.

So both Dcmort and classical_hero, two of the most suspected players, were both innocent. I don't know what to say other than that Pever's scanner is going to get it unless a good reason is involved. Either that or we should ignore Pever's suggested lynchs entirely.

Unvote, Vote: Wideeyedwander We've got Jooray's number, it will be hard now for him to do anything without the town knowing. Let's wait and see what happens this next night before we judge Jooray. Wideeyed is a much more unknown factor however.

Wait I was under the impression that you said that lightsaber color, even red, had no bearing on who their user was. Did I imagine that?

Yeah, narh.

Vote: Frozen In Ice

[a completely inoffensive name]

This is what happens when you all don't listen to my bipartisan plan to reach out to the Sith party.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

You seem to have missed one, I did not get the PM telling me that I rise from the dead and become a Sith-killing machine of awesomeness.

I want that PM too!!

[Kagemusha]

Well i am going to Vote: Jooray. I cant underrstand in my right mind that if he could be among the strongest jedi right now and is on his way into turning to darkside. Why on earth we should let him live? If we attack him during night, it will only corrupt more of us, so i think he should be lynched.

[God Emperor]

Vote: Diana with the reason I gave yesterday

[TinCow]

Vote: Joooray

Real vigilantes don't kill townies just to prove their innocence.

[Frozen In Ice]

Well, pever its quite nice that you follow my every word, but it seems like you're just following a hunch. I'll follow my hunch too, so vote: Beefy.

[pevergreen]

Well, pever its quite nice that you follow my ever word, but it seems like you're just following a hunch. I'll follow my hunch too, so vote: Beefy.

Wrong person to go for.

[DELETE_THIS]

Sigh I'm dead and I fear the dark side clouds everything.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'm busy atm.

[Chaotix]

Well i am going to Vote: Jooray. I cant underrstand in my right mind that if he could be among the strongest jedi right now and is on his way into turning to darkside. Why on earth we should let him live? If we attack him during night, it will only corrupt more of us, so i think he should be lynched.

I have been saying this for at least two rounds now.

Vote: Joooray

[Diamondeye]

You couldn't resist could you pizza? thanks for the good death

I noticed as well and just made a mental note while reading, "one of them is DiY" and read on

vote:Sasaki Kojiro again today.

[Jarema]

Vote: Diana

[Nightbringer]

Is there a case against WeW then?

Here are my cases against WeW and khazaar.

Originally Posted by Yaropolk
This is round 9, so anyone who has not posted during round 4 or later is WOG bait
Round 4 closed on 11/03 Here are the most lurky posters

Name, Posts, My Comments
Jolt NOT A SINGLE POST after signup
Link 2, 10/23, 11/13 - more than a 5 round gap in the middle
civplayah 3, last post 10/27
remake20 3, last post after 11/03
wideyedwanderer 3, last post after 11/03
landlubber 4
Cecil XIX 4, cleared by Pever
Greyblades 6,
Khazaar 6, atypically inactive
Belisarius II 7
Captain Blackadder 8
Ironside 8,
Nictel 10, 3 posts until 11/10 then woke up and started posting multiple times a day
AntiKingWarmancake 10

Either ATPG is asleep at the wheel or Jolt, civplayah and Link are doing something at night to keep themselves alive

Vote: Jolt

Post about weW

Originally Posted by Nightbringer
well, it looks like

Jolt is cleared on this by ATPG,

link seems to have just been gone in general,

Civplayah requested replacment,

remake20 is dead,

wideyedwanderer has been active today, but no posts

with this in mind, i am going to vote:wideyedwanderer

He is not usually so quiet, appears to have been watching the game. His posts have also all been simple votes with no explanation. He did express a greater desire for the Big New York game though so he might just be a bit uninterested. However, his recent post less visit suggests to me that he is interested and watching, just not posting.
He is also a relatively inexperienced player (like myself) and may be nervous about giving himself away if he is indeed a sith. This would explain the lack of posts.

I think iggy isnt a bad bet at this point, but i still never have seen a strong case against him.

I have also got a wierd vibe from chaotix, and diana abdona to some degree, but have nothing to back that up with.

Originally Posted by wideyedwanderer (40 minutes after my last post)
Vote: Joooray. His story isn't adding up to me. Kills Innocent players, saying "I was sure he was Sith..." Sort of reminds me of his behavior in Zack's Star Wars: A Regurgitated Hope on TWC.

Originally Posted by wideyedwanderer (a few hours later)
Joooray, let me get this straight. You are a vig, but your scan results are misleading? Something doesn't seem right.

Post 2 about WeW

Originally Posted by Nightbringer
Ok, now I'm sure you are scum. These are your fourth and fifth posts in the entire game, your most substantial posts, and they came 40 minutes and then 6 hours after i voted you for lurking.

Does this strike anyone else as highly suspicious.
He appears to be well aware of what is going on, despite no previous posts in a while.
He only posts now that he has been called out for it.
He posts almost immediately after being called out for it, further showing how much he is watching the game.
Finally, he is just jumping on the now easy Jooray bandwagon and making some vague noncommittal accusations.

I know I don't have proof, and likely don't have time to push this through today, but please please remember this guy tomorrow.
And please scan this guy and send pever your results tonight.

Post about khazaar

Originally Posted by Khazaar
Vote: Ignoramus I presume it´s between him and Jooray. Since the only obvious clue from the writeups is the red lightsaber I think we need to check the people that claimed vig/master/investigator stuff since none of that actually bore any fruit other than dead Jedi. Lynching inactives is close second, but maybe ATPG will wog them anyway so we don´t need to waste a vote...

Originally Posted by Nightbringer
ahh, another inactive jumps in just in time to defend his mafia buddy.


This one is feigning innocence by "presuming" it is between iggy and jooray. This is merely stating the obvious of what had been going on up until this point as well as prodding towards a two party election (lynching, same difference)

However, he too appears to have some degree of knowledge about what is going on in the game, knowledge that goes beyond what his level of activity would suggest.

He has been reading the write-ups and pizza's clarifications enough to know that only a RED light saber is a statement of guilt.
He is also aware of the possibility of lynching inactives, which would not be greatly obvious if he had just come in without paying attention.

He is also likely attempting to protect the person i see as our best bet of scum (WeW) by suggesting voting this way as a "waste" and suggesting they might be woged, when wideyedwanderer has just voting, assuring that will not happen for some time.

I propose that khaazar has been using the same tactic of hiding and staying under the radar as wideyedwanderer, only surfacing now that inactivity is being targeted in order to look active and to subtly protect his sith buddy.

While he has been more active than WeW he has been very uncontroversial with his votes, sticking to voting on the iggy bandwagon when he does vote.

In conclusion, FoS: khazaar


Originally Posted by Khazaar
Since the only obvious clue from the writeups is the red lightsaber I think we need to check the people that claimed vig/master/investigator stuff since none of that actually bore any fruit other than dead Jedi.

ps. can you please clarify this khazaar, this argument simply does not follow for me. i dont see the relation between these two points.

I do agree somewhat about diana being suspicious, but the sudden popularity of this seems very odd to me.

[slysnake]

Vote: Joooray

Real vigilantes don't kill townies just to prove their innocence.

You knew this was coming... Vote: Joooray

[Joooray]

Vote: Joooray

Real vigilantes don't kill townies just to prove their innocence.

I tried to explain my reasoning last day. I know now it wasn't a very good idea, but I saw little other chance to differentiate from the Sith actions during the night.

Well i am going to Vote: Jooray. I cant underrstand in my right mind that if he could be among the strongest jedi right now and is on his way into turning to darkside. Why on earth we should let him live? If we attack him during night, it will only corrupt more of us, so i think he should be lynched.

If Andres idea is correct, I'm only in danger of becoming part of the Dark Side if I continue killing people. And as I have promised I did not kill last night, merely investigated and protected. I will send the results to pever after this post. (No sense in exposing a likely innocent)
Also I wonder why I am being put under such scrutiny for attacking two people, when there is another vigilante that attacked far more people than I did. By this logic, he should be the prime suspect.

I will restate my vote from yesterday and Vote: Wideyedwanderer.

[Ignoramus]

I strongly urge you to vote for Diana Abnoba. I scanned her tonight and was told she was using an active ability. Given the suspicion that she's already generated, that's good enough for me.

Let's get her to explain herself.

Vote: Diana Abnoba

[Yaropolk]

vote: wideeyedwonderer for no activity and lack of WOG even after the rest of the lurkers have been replaced