This Week's Evil Islam Thread

[HoreTore]

I must say that in thier very finite wisdom, they are teaching those students some important lessons further down the road. The ones following this bile can, if they work hard enough, first teach their targets and then themself of what being on the recieving sides of the words pruning, purge, pogrom means.

Fanatism really does turn off some of the higher brain functions.

Deportation or at least kicking those teachers out of the school and better control on what is teached at private school is desperatly needed.

Missed the point entirely, bro.

Banning private schools altogether is, of course, the only possible way forward. This is far from the only instance of "loony private school"-syndrome, even if it is more graphic than other cases. Stop 'em altogether, they have nothing to offer society.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Instead of scrapping the entire private school system or deporting lots of brown people, maybe we could just regulate these institutions better?

[HoreTore]

Instead of scrapping the entire private school system or deporting lots of brown people, maybe we could just regulate these institutions better?

Why not use that money to make the public school better?

If the christians want a private school where they get to teach that gays go to hell or creationism, I want a school where I can teach students that people of x colour are vermin.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Why not use that money to make the public school better?

If the christians want a private school where they get to teach that gays go to hell or creationism, I want a school where I can teach students that people of x colour are vermin.

Don't have a problem with it, same rules as for the rest of society, no calls for direct violence. So long as they can still teach kids the necessary when it comes to reading/writing.

[HoreTore]

Don't have a problem with it, same rules as for the rest of society, no calls for direct violence. So long as they can still teach kids the necessary when it comes to reading/writing.

So, you don't want a school to be in favour of war?

[Fragony]

Why not use that money to make the public school better?

If the christians want a private school where they get to teach that gays go to hell or creationism, I want a school where I can teach students that people of x colour are vermin.

You can honestly not see the difference? Christians don't dehumanise, it's 'want to go to hell well your call', disbelieving is a choice with consequences in death, not life

[al Roumi]

You can honestly not see the difference? Christians don't dehumanise, it's 'want to go to hell well your call', disbelieving is a choice with consequences in death, not life

You do yourelf a dis-service with such a broad post. Are you really saying that ALL Christians have a "live and let live" credo? And conversely, that ALL Muslims are intolerant? Come on...

Also, I think some of y'all non-Brutunculi miss something re the state/independant school issue here. There is a long historic tradition of independant schools -be it public/private schools or others, e.g. faith based or Rudolph Steiner. I don't think that these schools have to teach the national curriculum, but the kids do have to/find it easier to have a normal life by doing the national exams. Clearly, the organisation highlighted by Panorama is doing a lot wrong and should be sanctioned in some way, but lets not through the baby out with the bath water.

[Louis VI the Fat]

You do yourelf a dis-service with such a broad post. Are you really saying that ALL Christians have a "live and let live" credo? And conversely, that ALL Muslims are intolerant? Come on...

To say that 'Italy is hotter than Sweden' does not mean 'all of Italy is all of the time warmer than all of Sweden all of the time'.

Consequently, digging up some hot midsummer heatwave in Sweden, or pointing out the very cold Alpine regions of Italy do not disprove the statement either.

[rory_20_uk]

I am certain that persons of all religions can be intolerant. I do think however, that some religions do appear to be more tolerant of others. For example what is the penalty of stopping being a Christian in all major denominations? You'll go to hell when you die. Some Christians do try to make things worse by "saving the soul by destroying the body", but this is definitely post-hoc. In Islam? Death. Arguably, to not kill them you're having to re-interpret the texts.

This one is not a school, it's an after school. Private schools fall under OFSTEAD. When I was there we did have to adhere to the national curriculum. Things might have changed of course.

[Louis VI the Fat]

I am certain that persons of all religions can be intolerant. I do think however, that some religions do appear to be more tolerant of others.

By what mechanism would religions all be exactly as tolerant of others? Or for that matter, all end up exactly as peaceful, embracing of diversity, stimulative of scientific enquiry, etc?

Different religions, like different political systems of thought, are...different.

[HoreTore]

This one is not a school, it's an after school.

Well that changes everything in my opinion.

What people do in their own free time is up to themselves. Whether they want to pick flowers or learn how to kill is irrelevant to me, it's none of my bloody business.


I do not believe in limiting free speech.

[Fragony]

You do yourelf a dis-service with such a broad post. Are you really saying that ALL Christians have a "live and let live" credo? And conversely, that ALL Muslims are intolerant? Come on...

Also, I think some of y'all non-Brutunculi miss something re the state/independant school issue here. There is a long historic tradition of independant schools -be it public/private schools or others, e.g. faith based or Rudolph Steiner. I don't think that these schools have to teach the national curriculum, but the kids do have to/find it easier to have a normal life by doing the national exams. Clearly, the organisation highlighted by Panorama is doing a lot wrong and should be sanctioned in some way, but lets not through the baby out with the bath water.

I never say all you just read that, you do me a disservice by assuming I'm that dumb.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Missed the point entirely, bro.

Banning private schools altogether is, of course, the only possible way forward. This is far from the only instance of "loony private school"-syndrome, even if it is more graphic than other cases. Stop 'em altogether, they have nothing to offer society.

Banning all public schools would be equally effective. Require ALL schooling to be private. Have your Islamist schools and a BNP academy as well (though staffing it might leave the rest of the BNP bereft of literati).

[HoreTore]

Banning all public schools would be equally effective. Require ALL schooling to be private. Have your Islamist schools and a BNP academy as well (though staffing it might leave the rest of the BNP bereft of literati).

Uhm, no.... Making all schools private will allow schools like these, not remove them, while making all schools public will remove them... Not quite sure what you're onto here...

And in any case, this isn't a school as such, and this point is now irrelevant to this particular discussion.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Or Freedom of Religion be damned and just banned these Muslims schools outright?

[Fragony]

Or Freedom of Religion be damned and just banned these Muslims schools outright?

That would be kinda be destroying our own values, muslims can have islamic schools and mosques no problem, the problem is and will always be the islamphilae of the multiculti's who will never accept that there might be even a hint of a problem, even the mere suggestion upsets their inner mother, they get vicious shreek and claw when all ducklings don't march in a straight line. A dying breed but oh so creepy.