Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
I just wanna interject here and offer a slightly different viewpoint.


-Who won the American revolution? Those with bigger production capabilities/more money
-Who won WW1? Those with bigger production capabilities/more money
-Who won WW2? Those with bigger production capabilities/more money
-Who won the cold war? Those with bigger production capabilities/more money
-Who's winning the wars in the middle east? Those with bigger production capabilities/more money
-Who won both gulf wars? Those with bigger production capabilities/more money
I take this as support for my position...

Except for the first one, the american revolutionaries certainly did not have a bigger production capability or more money than the British Empire.

Who won the Afghan war in the 1990ies? - one dictatorship defeated another dictatorship
Who won the Vietnam war? - irregular war, when I say "war" I'm referring to regular wars, occupying a country is something democracies have shown themselves to be poor at
Who won the Korean war? - noone?
Who won the War on Drugs? - this isn't a "war"
Who won the invasion of Cuba? - the dictatorship won, mostly because the democracy(US) withdrew its support at the critical moment. an invasion with the full backing of the US army would have had a completely different outcome.
Who won the cuban revolution? - the revolutionaries defeated a dictatorship
Who won the french revolution? - yes, who did really win the french revolution? I'll let Louis answer that one... But at any rate, there was at least one dictator on both sides
Who won the Greek/Persian war? - dictator vs. dictator
Who won the War on Terror? - irregular and ongoing