Star Wars: Fall of the Order [Concluded]

[Seon]

5 kill attempts? This is looking very grim.

vote:nightbringer

What do you mean by this?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

@renata: Us townies are in trouble I fear, don't you think fellow townies?

[Renata]

We should probably be lynching someone who was not a replacement and who has not recently been the aim of a known-not-town attack, for best chance at getting one of the big bads. For that first part, the list is:

a completely inoffensive name
AntiKingWarmancake
Autolycus
ByzantineKnight
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Csargo
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
Frozen in Ice
God Emperor
Greyblades
Ignoramus
Jarema
Joooray
Kagemusha
Khazaar
Nightbringer
Psychonaut
Renata
Robbiecon
Seon
wideyedwanderer

Unfortunately for my suspicions of their changed behavior, neither Sasaki nor TinCow is in that group in their current incarnations. So

unvote: Sasaki

That's 22 people not counting myself, just about getting to be a reasonable size to start looking at posts and votes as a whole.

[Renata]

@renata: Us townies are in trouble I fear, don't you think fellow townies?

It's getting down to it, probably. 33 left (plus three town votes from dead people potentially), how many of them not town?

[Jarema]

Vote: Diana Abnoba
Still the same reasons

[Diamondeye]

Vote: Kagemusha

[Askthepizzaguy]

Everyone now has an updated role PM.

[Nightbringer]

ill vote:diana abnoba for the reasons ive stated already. however, i would like to hear what other cases people make as there really isnt much on diana abnoba.

[God Emperor]

Vote: Kagemusha

any reason ?

[Chaotix]

Vote: Seon

Last phase he seemed to be actively trying to confuse the town, to the point of saying pevergreen and the Force Ghosts' innocence was in question.

[God Emperor]

Vote: Acin for now. .

All that town confusing behavior

[Greyblades]

5 attemts? Ouch, we realy need to get that down. Vote: Ignoramus

[Seon]

Vote: Khazaar.

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

5 attemts? Ouch, we realy need to get that down. Vote: Ignoramus

Scummy post. Vote: Greyblades

[Ironside]

5 kill attempts? This is looking very grim.

With me not being able to sing anymore, you got 3 vigi kills. Luckily two dark jedi are already in the open. Igno and Chaotix. Chaotix is mr purple saber and/or the dark one and Igno is his recruit.

2 things:
-The other vigilante (I assume you mean the purple lightsaber one, because I think there were more) killed a Sith twice. You have killed more innocents, and you have used Force Lightning, a Dark side power. Clearly you are already Dark Side.
-Your identity is known to the town. The other vigilante's is not, and perhaps he would be under suspicion too if we knew his identity. But again, he's killing Sith and you're not.

And regardless of whether or not you meant to kill innocents in the first place, what you have done has brought you under the influence of the Dark Side. You are no longer working in the best interests of the town.

I'm not defending the other vigilante. I'm saying that Joooray is just as bad, or worse.
The purple lightsaber vigilante has killed Sith in addition to innocents, but Joooray has only gone after innocents so far.

Basically, I'm saying Joooray is saying "But he was doing it too!" and then using it as his defense. That kind of reasoning doesn't make Joooray any less guilty, he's just trying to shift blame on someone we don't know and therefore can't lynch even if we want to.

The Grandmaster was a Dark Jedi?

And Joooray, his successor, is likely one as well.

Good job on Ignoramus for getting a Sith; I'd say there's very little chance he's not on our side now. I'd be interested to hear if he has any idea on who the Master is.

I can answer those. Just by you putting your own case in quotes it looks rather shaky.

I went after Jeb when he revealed and got TinCow lynched because he claimed it was a "guilty" result. At that point, I didn't (nobody did) know how investigations worked, so I assumed when he said "guilty" he meant "guilty". Thus, when TinCow turned up "not guilty", naturally I thought Jeb was scum. Later I found out he misinterpreted the results, and that's why I dropped my accusations, albeit cautiously.

On the second post with the "obvious information", you've got me. The main point of that, honestly, was to make sure that everyone else was connecting role names with players. I feel it's important to note that Joooray, who is largely suspected to be a Dark Jedi, is the Grandmaster. It's also important to see that Ignoramus, who we previously thought was guilty, was the one who killed the Sith, thus clearing his name. And I was genuinely surprised that Sol Jade was a Dark Jedi, since he hadn't appeared to kill anyone in the write-ups- so unless he was killing without us knowing it was him, he was Dark from the start- which is a new and important piece of info.

Take that as you will.

There's no merit in the Ignoramus case. Considering the only way we've gotten rid of Sith so far is by vigilantes, I'd say it's a rather bad idea to kill the vigilantes, especially if they supposedly haven't turned to the Dark Side yet. I see a strong resemblance to the Four Horsemen of Pirate Ship here; sure it was a random kill, but it helped us a lot.

To summarize: Joorey is EVIL, by picking a probable inactive. I agree on stupid choise, might be a dark jedi.
Mr purple saber is better than Joorey, for killing a sith on random and then killing him again. Mr purple blade has also 2 jedi kills, 2 attacks on other jedi, 2 attacks on Jooray and one unknown. Hardly some beacon of light, yet better than a single kill by Joorey.
Ignoramus is a hero for self admittably randomly killing a sith. His name is known by coincidence (only the defenders name is known, for both names to show up, both need to...?) And he can't be a dark jedi, unlike EVIL Joorey.

Hardly consistant is it?

Yes, I'm a Sith, but if you don't have any sith targets, is it better to vote randomly around or to actually take down a more obvious danger to the town?
But sure, you can keep them around so we end up with a draw, wimps. My master is playing for the win.

[Nightbringer]

about^
what do you think guys, he is sith, but it is actually a coherent case, where everything else is pretty much guess work.
im not going to follow it, but i think it is worth investigating on our own.

and the sith motivation to do this does make sense, the dark jedi have a lot of abilities compared to average townies most likely, so the sith would want them gone because they are a threat. but this does bring up the question of how much we want them gone. i think maybe we could come to an agreement with the dark jedi and try to work together against the sith, if they refuse, then we can try following this lead.


of course, it could easily all be fabrication, he is bringing up a couple of apparently powerful jedi, and ti could just be a ploy to get us to vote one of them off.

im definitely not advocating following this plan, but i do think we should use our own information to investigate it.

[Diamondeye]

any reason ?

He's been lurkish and is on Renata's list, so I just wanted to prompt him a bit.

about^
what do you think guys, he is sith, but it is actually a coherent case, where everything else is pretty much guess work.
im not going to follow it, but i think it is worth investigating on our own.

and the sith motivation to do this does make sense, the dark jedi have a lot of abilities compared to average townies most likely, so the sith would want them gone because they are a threat. but this does bring up the question of how much we want them gone. i think maybe we could come to an agreement with the dark jedi and try to work together against the sith, if they refuse, then we can try following this lead.


of course, it could easily all be fabrication, he is bringing up a couple of apparently powerful jedi, and ti could just be a ploy to get us to vote one of them off.

im definitely not advocating following this plan, but i do think we should use our own information to investigate it.

I think we shouldn't listen to him. And I don't know, but saying "we" as much as you do in this post tingles my scumdar a bit.

[TinCow]

Back from holiday now. Can anyone tell me if Renata has ever been attacked?

[Beefy187]

Vote: Seon

Last phase he seemed to be actively trying to confuse the town, to the point of saying pevergreen and the Force Ghosts' innocence was in question.

I disagree. I've never seen Seon do that before as mafia. And that will gather too much attention on him.

[Chaotix]

With me not being able to sing anymore, you got 3 vigi kills. Luckily two dark jedi are already in the open. Igno and Chaotix. Chaotix is mr purple saber and/or the dark one and Igno is his recruit.

To summarize: Joorey is EVIL, by picking a probable inactive. I agree on stupid choise, might be a dark jedi.
Mr purple saber is better than Joorey, for killing a sith on random and then killing him again. Mr purple blade has also 2 jedi kills, 2 attacks on other jedi, 2 attacks on Jooray and one unknown. Hardly some beacon of light, yet better than a single kill by Joorey.
Ignoramus is a hero for self admittably randomly killing a sith. His name is known by coincidence (only the defenders name is known, for both names to show up, both need to...?) And he can't be a dark jedi, unlike EVIL Joorey.

Hardly consistant is it?

Yes, I'm a Sith, but if you don't have any sith targets, is it better to vote randomly around or to actually take down a more obvious danger to the town?
But sure, you can keep them around so we end up with a draw, wimps. My master is playing for the win.

I won't even deign to respond to this, Sith scum.

Your logic's full of holes, you're trying to create discord in the town, and on top of that you're just wrong.

Beefy: who do you think is a better choice at the moment? You have a vote.

If anything, the fact that Seon is now voting for a lurker and being silent, trying to avoid suspicion, is making me more suspicious of him.

[Seon]

WIFOM, Beefy, I could totally, TOTALLY be a mafia and act all like that because my nemesises, renata and you, know that I never do things like this when I am a mafia. I thought you new better than that Beefy. Didn't the afterlife teach you anything?

FOS: Beefy, even though he's dead and thus a confirmed townie.

Priceless.

[God Emperor]

@ Tincow , not what I know of. it is not that many people who have survived night attacks I think

Nightbringer

That post.. When reading it I got the feeling that you almost had been waiting for ironside to post what he did.. And why would we need to be working with the Dark Jedi? it's not exactly night kills that are missing here... I believe it's a good time to go back and read your previous posts

[Double A]

Seriously? Ignoramus is still alive?

vote: Ignoramus

[Sasaki Kojiro]

unvote, vote:chaotix

[Seon]

Seriously? Ignoramus is still alive?

vote: Ignoramus

He kind of did kill a Sith.

[robbiecon]

Vote: Joooray, I hope you will do the same.

[God Emperor]

Wait.. what.. if that is so, then you should quickly remove that post. There are plenty force ghosts alive, why pull such a stunt? Allow them to say it

[Diamondeye]

Wait.. what.. if that is so, then you should quickly remove that post. There are plenty force ghosts alive, why pull such a stunt? Allow them to say it

This is what I was thinking exactly.

[robbiecon]

I cannot truly trust pevergreen. His information has been incorrect thus far.

EDIT: change of mind.

EDIT2: It's done. Thanks for the advice.

[God Emperor]

Unvote; Vote: Joooray

@Joooray , can you post in this thread whom you have attacked each night phase?

@ Ignoramus, same thing