Is Marriage an Outdated concept?

**Rhyfelwyr** · 12-11-2010, 00:03

Originally Posted by HoreTore

No, my inital statement was that is an outdated concept

It was part and parcel of your original statement, no weasling out this time!

Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy

I think marriage is outdated I think it should be scrapped as a legal concept completely.

I agree with the bit about the legal issue, it was only ever made a legal issue in the mid-17th century. It was a practical move to make then, it also had a lot of value with the nuclear family as the basic social unit for much of the twentieth century. Less so now, but I still think it is of some value.

Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy

Nature is cruel our world tells women to follow this advice Sasaki but she is likely going to be incapable of bearing children by then.

The truth is women should have there kids early but our society has given up on the lifestyle that allowed this to work.

A problem that is only going to get worse with a new generation brainwashed into thinking that "education--->career---->nice retirement--->grave" is the way to go about life.

I actually think all these latter middle-aged women having kids is more of a social problem than people having them when they are young (within reason of course).

**gaelic cowboy** · 12-11-2010, 00:20

Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

I actually think all these latter middle-aged women having kids is more of a social problem than people having them when they are young (within reason of course).

There is often a nagging feeling of consumerism gone mad in the back of my head when I watch tv programmes on IVF and the like.

We should have supports for child rearing at a younger age so the women can return to the workforce or education later on, part of the problem seems to be the endless waiting for things to be perfect.

**Rhyfelwyr** · 12-11-2010, 00:27

Yeah. I don't understand why these career focused psycho-women go on TV complaining about people giving birth in their late teens/early twenties, when it is a completely healthy time to have a child. Doing it to live off benefits is bad but they are not all like that. It ties in with what I'm saying in the education thread, for some reason now everyone has to have a career and put their children second.

And then these same women go on to have children at 45 when there is a much greater risk of complications with the pregnancy, not to mention the fact that they will quite likely be dead/incapacitated before they are grandparents. It's not even fair to their families. Doing the best for the child my ass, they just want to do their own thing in life.

**gaelic cowboy** · 12-11-2010, 00:39

Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

Yeah. I don't understand why these career focused psycho-women go on TV complaining about people giving birth in their late teens/early twenties, when it is a completely healthy time to have a child. Doing it to live off benefits is bad but they are not all like that. It ties in with what I'm saying in the education thread, for some reason now everyone has to have a career and put their children second.

And then these same women go on to have children at 45 when there is a much greater risk of complications with the pregnancy, not to mention the fact that they will quite likely be dead/incapacitated before they are grandparents. It's not even fair to their families. Doing the best for the child my ass, they just want to do their own thing in life.

My granny was married at 19 to my grandfather and then went on to have 7 kids and that would have been seen as a medium sized family.

The career focused psycho-women are a joke compared to her life.

**Rhyfelwyr** · 12-11-2010, 00:42

Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy

My granny was married at 19 to my grandfather and then went on to have 7 kids and that would have been seen as a medium sized family.

The career focused psycho-women are a joke compared to her life.

Yep, those psycho-women are really just a product of their times. It's like with drug addicts, its the way they were raised. In the case of the psycho-women we're told to think it is good and liberating, but is it really?

heh, my Grandmother on my mothers side of the family had 10 sisters and 1 brother (living in Belfast at the time).

**Beskar** · 12-11-2010, 00:58

There should be no state intervention in marriage. No tax breaks for married couples, and all that other nonsense either.

It should be about love and relationships, between two people. If they want to have a service or a commitment, they can go ahead. If they are homosexual and the church they are marrying in allows homosexual marriage, they can go in. "Marriage" is up to the people involved.