Picking up the........

[naut]

I would listen to him. Friendships are nice and all, but once she sees you as a friend it will almsot never work out to be anything more that that. And, seeing as how love through closeness is more true for males than females, you will only depress yourself.

It's not that she see's you as a "friend", it's that she sees this: a guy with low self-esteem and no confidence who doesn't back himself enough to take a chance and isn't man enough to go out and "take what he wants". Guys who take that approach are desperate, and to quote a good friend of mine: "Desperation is the least attractive quality a man can have".

Confidence and backing yourself is what works. That and having realistic expectations, relationships are transactive. Don't expect to get a premium product if your offering is substandard.

[Motep]

It's not that she see's you as a "friend", it's that she sees this: a guy with low self-esteem and no confidence who doesn't back himself enough to take a chance and isn't man enough to go out and "take what he wants". Guys who take that approach are desperate, and to quote a good friend of mine: "Desperation is the least attractive quality a man can have".

Confidence and backing yourself is what works. That and having realistic expectations, relationships are transactive. Don't expect to get a premium product if your offering is substandard.

For the second time, do not listen to me. Listen to this guy

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Move with grace! Move with confidence! Move with...

yeah, you probably should not listen to me...

Strike hard, Strike fast, be bold

is my motto. I'm trying to figure out if it works to much for me that it causes me to fail or what.

Yeah.

Hey. Are we man-whores?

Ummm..... You tell me.

I am a bit of a chick-magnet I'm the one that gets aproached, only flirt back and it usually stays at that unless I actually like them, never go for them myself it's not in my nature to do so. If I would see the love of my life I would be clueless on how to aproach her.

Your advice Mr.Chick man?

well, still running arround chasing girls? I bet you are frustated, actually, here is some alternatives
1) if you have a girl that was your best friend... try to spend more time with her. Love grows from closeness.... if you don't have any, try to become friends with them, and love will comes naturally
2) do heavy bodybuilding until you got body like greek gods, chicks will come afterwards
3) go to church, and pray endlessly in two or three days, attend every worship and prayer events, and become a very pious and religious man, I can bet some girls will start to see something in you. (if you don't get some sucess, maybe your life had another purpose than chasing girls arround... )
4) directly speak to your parents and ask to get a marriage arrangements (if you are soo frustated by the prospect of not having any girl). But necer complain if they gave you the fat chubby one...
5) ask for a mail order bride from *****

actually, a girl is reading all of this, and she said "pity for warman"

No, they would just slap me with a restraining order.

[Strike For The South]

In my absence Psychonaut is your king.

[Strike For The South]

It's not that she see's you as a "friend", it's that she sees this: a guy with low self-esteem and no confidence who doesn't back himself enough to take a chance and isn't man enough to go out and "take what he wants". Guys who take that approach are desperate, and to quote a good friend of mine: "Desperation is the least attractive quality a man can have".

Agreed, Girls go for the ass and screw over the nice guy is a misnomer. Girls go for the guy who knows what he wants and doesn't give a damn what anyone else thinks, esp. when it comes to her.

Confidence and backing yourself is what works. That and having realistic expectations, relationships are transactive. Don't expect to get a premium product if your offering is substandard.

are you talking only looks? b/c I would have to disagree. Now a good body goes a long way but a man can eaisly overcome being ugly

[naut]

are you talking only looks? b/c I would have to disagree. Now a good body goes a long way but a man can eaisly overcome being ugly

I'm talking about everything combined, looks+attitude+personality+etc. A product is more than its packaging, etc.

[Strike For The South]

I'm talking about everything combined, looks+attitude+personality+etc. A product is more than its packaging, etc.

true, but a man can be defficent in any one of those things save confiedence, if you walk around like you have no balls, ladies will treat you as such

[Crazed Rabbit]

Here, Warman, learn from the master:
http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/mis/2081287206.html

CR

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Here, Warman, learn from the master:
http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/mis/2081287206.html

CR

Here are guys who always pick up the ladies.

[Megas Methuselah]

true, but a man can be defficent in any one of those things save confiedence, if you walk around like you have no balls, ladies will treat you as such

Or they'll cross the street.

[Shaka_Khan]

true, but a man can be defficent in any one of those things save confiedence, if you walk around like you have no balls, ladies will treat you as such

Money, looks, brains, etc. will make a man confident......

Because Im interesting, handsome, and witty

See?