Well I got my wth?? moment du jour

[Fragony]

Apparently somebody at state tv this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NvU...layer_embedded was a funny idea. Are they out of their mind to treat an ambassador like that. Sack this idiot, or even better a bodybag. This is really incredibly painful. If you are Dutch send a mail to the Chinese embassy to apologise for this tax funded idiot.

[Husar]

Is an ambassador somehow above scrutiny?
I think it looks like an obvious troll attempt and it's not all that funny either, but the ambassador behaved in a very diplomatic way (surprise, surprise ), no harm was done and while the behaviour of the ambassador was very nice(perhaps only because he was on camera), he does represent an oppressive government, doesn't he?

Now the behaviour of the comedian was a bit childish but where from do you get that he speaks on behalf of the dutch people or that he represents anyone other than himself and the TV station he works with? I doubt he will achieve a lot with this kind of behaviour but your reaction to it seems way out of proportion.

[Fragony]

It's an Asian of course he's polite, congratulating the Chinese ambassador with the Nobel peace price you kidding me? Didn't you know they are extremely pissed of about that price?

[Louis VI the Fat]

Wait...are you advocating dhimmitude to the commie autocrats?


Fragony's a dhimmi...Fragony's a dhimmi....na nana naa na....

[Husar]

And others are very angry about the Chinese jailing that guy who got the prize, fighting protests with violence etc.
I don't see why the Chinese government should have the right to trample on the sensitivities of others while when someone trolls them a bit it's suddenly a huge affront and all the dutch need to bow down and lick chinese boots so they don't get too upset.

[Devastatin Dave]

I'm shocked they allowed this guy with a camera and were stupid enough not to question him before he even spoke to the ambassader. I bet there will be several on that video that have a future in the Chinese Organ Donor program....

[The Stranger]

Apparently somebody at state tv this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NvU...layer_embedded was a funny idea. Are they out of their mind to treat an ambassador like that. Sack this idiot, or even better a bodybag. This is really incredibly painful. If you are Dutch send a mail to the Chinese embassy to apologise for this tax funded idiot.

why? if i would do that i would acknowledge him as part of the group which are the dutch (i would acknowledge that i myself am part of that group) i dont think that he can make such a statement on behalf of the dutch.

the most stupid thing is that he isnt taking the ambassador serious. he is only trying to make fun of him instead of actually listening to what he has to say and have a useful conversation. he is only seeking to ridicule the other. sounds like a familiar approach only less agressive this time.

there is a funny comment under the vid that is typical for the level of most of the comments made and perhaps also for how alot of people think... or better said dont think




stop hating china ******* jews





awesome...

[Fragony]

An ambassador isn't just someone it means a lot when pulled out. Making fun of an ambassador is stupid enough, this is just so mind -numbingly rediculously disrespectful this isn't a game and then these some clowns say Wilders is bad for foreign relations.

[The Stranger]

its funny how u always make bad things a leftist issue. u got a talent my dear!

it is not ok to make fun of an ambassador

it is ok to make fun of a religion, an entire race, etc...

seriously all standards are lost!!!

[Beskar]

The Fragony Defense League is out there to protect the interests of the Netherlands and Dutch people, not the Dhimmitude. That reporter is also looks like a Muslim, so the FDL has to be extra vigilant on cases like this.

[Fragony]

Funny how you make it a muslim thing and somehow I do, while absolutely unthinkable that they would do the same I wouldn't have reacted any differently. But you two would ohnoes oil-embargo, as warned for so often

[Devastatin Dave]

I'm lost, how was Fragony's posts anywhere near related to Islam? Good lord you Euro weenies will try to create any sort of issue with anything to appease your new muslim masters...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXwWyAJT334

[Fragony]

I'm lost, how was Fragony's posts anywhere near related to Islam? Good lord you Euro weenies will try to create any sort of issue with anything to appease your new muslim masters...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXwWyAJT334

Beats me as well, but I'm really bad at leftist logic I just don't get it. Something must have triggered it

[Husar]

An ambassador isn't just someone it means a lot when pulled out.

But yes, he is, so many people died to fight public slavery to the nobility and now you start putting people on a pedestal again. It's not okay to say certain people shouldn't be criticised or ridiculed. If he put a lot of effort into getting into that position, then there is all the more reason to ridicule him because he put a lot of effort into representing a repressive government.

I'm lost, how was Fragony's posts anywhere near related to Islam? Good lord you Euro weenies will try to create any sort of issue with anything to appease your new muslim masters...

It's bollox because Fragony loves Iranians and we don't even know whether the guy is a muslim, so yes, agreed.

As with Tribesman, one should not reduce Fragony to a simple one-argument mindset. This kind of attitude is also known as prejudice and in this case comes from people who usually claim to fight prejudices, think about it.

[Fragony]

Well he's an Iranian muslim

But things just aren't done, they are plenty angry about that Nobel-price we (well not we) are in the middle of an diplomatic row and that idiot walks in with flowers and mocks the difficulty Chinese have with the r. You treat ambassadors with proper respect they are the line for economical cooperation, that is serious business.

[Husar]

You treat ambassadors with proper respect they are the line for economical cooperation, that is serious business.

But he doesn't represent any of the cooperating businesses, does he?
There was also a row over whether companies like google should just censor things if the chinese government wants them to.
Should we really bend over backwards and accept everything China does just to not threaten our economic ties?
And if the guy cannot differentiate between a comedian jerk and a serious businessman and blames one for the deeds of the other, then he is a pretty bad diplomat anyway.

[The Stranger]

Funny how you make it a muslim thing and somehow I do, while absolutely unthinkable that they would do the same I wouldn't have reacted any differently. But you two would ohnoes oil-embargo, as warned for so often

when did i make it a muslim thing...

[Devastatin Dave]

It was directed towards Beskar's post, although the ambassador should be thankfuly those flowers didn't contain a pipe bomb.

[The Stranger]

Beats me as well, but I'm really bad at leftist logic I just don't get it. Something must have triggered it

how is what he said leftist? beats me man... but i'm really bad at this right-wing turkey logic...

and the circle continues!!! woot woot we all so smart wooot woooot train departs to loonland!!!

[Fragony]

its funny how u always make bad things a leftist issue. u got a talent my dear!

it is not ok to make fun of an ambassador

it is ok to make fun of a religion, an entire race, etc...

seriously all standards are lost!!!

there

[The Stranger]

how is that leftist?

im just mocking u... if that makes a person leftist... well...


lets make a little analogy

what is your stance about people drawing funny cartoons about mohammed?
what is your stance about people making funny jokes about the king/queen (of any country), or president (such as obama, bush, berlusconi etc)
what is your stance about people making fun of jesus
what is your stance about people making fun of a chinese ambassador
what is your stance about people making fun of their neighbours etc


lets assume you will give an inconsistent answer to these questions, and i would point out this inconsistency, would i therefor apply leftist logic???

[Fragony]

how is that leftist?

im just mocking u... if that makes a person leftist... well...

Don't worry it just makes you an idiot

[The Stranger]

this is really low and i had expected more of you...

[Banquo's Ghost]

Since this thread has descended into personal abuse and baiting, it can take a nap.