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    Ok I dont think I'm going to get an answer today so I'll state my theory - the Brown's have been hireing a maid to clean up after them, normally I would expect a maid would have been given a key or security code at some point to the house just in case the family is out of the house at the designated time of cleaning. One of these times the maid has been cleaning the kitchen/bathroom/wherever they keep a medicine cabinet and s/he decided to swap out some of the regular pills; paracetamol, something to help with time of the month etc, with sedatives. After that all the maid had to do was to figure out when Mrs browns time of the month is, shouldnt be too hard check some bins for used, uh, "medical supplies", after that all s/he has to do is turn up in the middle of Mrs Brown's time of the month use his/her key to get in and strangle Mr Brown while Mrs Brown is unconcious from taking medicine she expected to ease the cramps.

    This should explain why there was no sign of breaking in and why Mrs Brown didnt notice her husband getting killed.

    Edit: Oh uh never mind then. ADT guy broke in by knowing the system and chlorophormed Mrs Brown while she slept to keep her unconcious while he killed the Husband.
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    Was the phone call to the hospital made by Mrs. Brown?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbringer View Post
    Was the phone call to the hospital made by Mrs. Brown?
    Uhh...yeah?

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    The policeman at the entrance did it

    Minions, conjure up the evidence to support this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seon View Post
    Uhh...yeah?
    It could have been a hospital worker who killed the husband, then when Mrs. Brown woke up he could have said he got an anonymous call and was there to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondeye View Post
    The policeman at the entrance did it

    Minions, conjure up the evidence to support this.
    Yeah, Diamondeye, where's your evidence?

    @Nightbringer: But tha'ts insane.

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    Do you want a small hint, continue investigating some more/ask question to the MURDERER HIMSELF, or do you want a really big hint?

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    Interesting!

    Mr. Brown was found strangled in his sleep
    So I'm guessing it was a quick and swift death by the rope. Then he wouldn't have had time to make sound, so its possible that thus the wife would not have been alerted.

    I also cautiously note that the house has a chimney with a roof that seems walkable, as well as pipes adorning the sides. I'd like to confirm if the chimney could fit a man, or a really thin man. Also is the murderer fat? Or is he thin/average?

    Was the bedroom in the same room as the fire place? Yes or no, was it Mr Brown/Mrs Brown's habit to keep that fire going through the night? Were there doused ashes found at that fireplace?

    The murderer is someone that neither Mr or Mrs Brown know.
    So the murderer is a stranger then. Since the neighborhood is a peaceful one with no crime committed in the past 4 years or something, it thus follows that a psychopath murderer who kills for the sake of mystery, AND is known to the detective from past experience, is NOT from this neighborhood.

    I wonder if asking the neighbors whether they saw anyone not from the neighborhood around on the day of the murder would be a good idea and when they last saw him. Maybe this would give a further indication when he entered the house. Its still possible he sneaked in normally and left unconventionally.

    "Of course, cooperation will yield gratitudes..."

    "Ah..." the cop nods knowingly. Money, of course, is a common language.
    In heart, you can't help but feel as if the guy rehearsed this whole thing too well
    Hmm, also seems possible that in the same way, the cop/police could have been bought off already. Not sure what that means though.

    "I don't know if I should be telling you this..."
    *wonders if this is evidence that the cop was indeed bought off* (signifies that the cop doesn't know whether the guy who bought him off would want him to tell this snippet of information..?)

    "It was impossible for anyone to sneak inside the house even before the cops came,"
    Either he was there already in the house, or he sneaked in via an unconventional way (chimney perhaps?)

    After typing this, I think that the murderer definitely had to come in via an unconventional route unprotected by the security system. He could not have possibly sneaked in when the system was down or something (if the Browns turn it off during the day) because then the current scenario would not have occurred. The wife insists that at no point of time did the security system trip, and that the house was still secure. Therefore, if he sneaked in while the system was down or something and was there beforehand, he could not have possibly left via the original route.

    Thus, I'd venture a guess and say that the murderer entered the house via the chimney (not even sure whether its possible to enter via there, but it does seem like a good idea since you haven't mentioned it at all Seon, plus its in the picture, how wonderfully deceptive and overlooked)

    Just tossing out some thoughts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Death is yonder View Post
    Thus, I'd venture a guess and say that the murderer entered the house via the chimney (not even sure whether its possible to enter via there, but it does seem like a good idea since you haven't mentioned it at all Seon, plus its in the picture, how wonderfully deceptive and overlooked)

    You are on the right track here. The picture is a key evidence.

    However, you are wrong.

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    The door's fitted with an autolock and the wife swore that the chain was still set from the inside when she opened the door.
    Does this apply also to the door like object on the left side of the house in the picture? Or just the main door.
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    No, for that place is a greenhouse and thus lacks a door to the outside world.

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    Did they drop a boa constrictor down the chimney? :)
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    Murderer doesn't know how he did it.
    Thus he have no right to claim murderer.

    Ask him for evidence that he was indeed the one who killed Mr Brown


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy187 View Post
    Murderer doesn't know how he did it.
    Thus he have no right to claim murderer.

    Ask him for evidence that he was indeed the one who killed Mr Brown
    "Certainly," the murderer grins. He reaches into a pocket and pulls out a picture. On the picture is Mr. Brown and Mrs. Brown, still in bed. The murderer stands next to Mr. Brown, still wearing the ridiculous Guy Fawkes mask. He is holding a garrote of some kind, fashioned from piano wire.

    It is dark. It seems as if the photo was taken using an infrared sight. Probably to reduce chance of detection. However, there can be no dispute that this murderer was indeed, the one who killed Mr. Brown.

    Edit: Ah yes. You re using webcam, which is why you can see the picture, and why the murderer is wearing his Guy Fawkes mask. He, however, sometimes uses soft filtering to blur his image. He can't wear the mask ALL the time now can he.
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    So our biggest mystery right now is how he got in without tripping security.


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    If he doesn't come from above, could have have entered from below?

    Did you say that the Greenhouse is not connected to the outside world? Is it completely intact, impossible to enter through without setting off the alarm system?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondeye View Post
    If he doesn't come from above, could have have entered from below?

    Did you say that the Greenhouse is not connected to the outside world? Is it completely intact, impossible to enter through without setting off the alarm system?
    I refuse to confirm.

    I refuse to say why.

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    Is it intact at least? We should be able to see that without coming close.
    Also, do we know if they've re-enabled the alarm system? Or is it presently turned off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondeye View Post
    Is it intact at least? We should be able to see that without coming close.
    Also, do we know if they've re-enabled the alarm system? Or is it presently turned off?
    It is still completely intact. No panes of broken glass exist.

    They have not reenabled the alarm system in the house. The guard standing in front of the doorway and the fact that this is a police investigation is enough to deter most intruder.

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    What are our chances of breaking into the house thru the Greenhouse? Is it heavily guarded, the place?

    Also; @Murderer: "So, a shame about that fingerprint they found, huh?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondeye View Post
    What are our chances of breaking into the house thru the Greenhouse? Is it heavily guarded, the place?

    Also; @Murderer: "So, a shame about that fingerprint they found, huh?"
    "Yeah, so shameful. But you know what? I was never caught once. Therefore, I do not exist in their little database."

    "Besides, there are exactly 0 chance that they will find my fingerprint.

    Edit: OOC: You can try. But if you get caught .

    No.

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    "You might have a point about the database. If only they would share their discovery of the entry point, I'd be barking up your heels already."
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    Wait if the murderer is in contact with us, why arent we getting the police to try to track the ip adress or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Wait if the murderer is in contact with us, why arent we getting the police to try to track the ip adress or something?
    Because you are crazy.

    @Diamondeye: They can't share what they don't have now can they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seon View Post
    Because you are crazy.
    This proves it. WE ARE THE MURDERER. ARGH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondeye View Post
    This proves it. WE ARE THE MURDERER. ARGH.
    No. You have an alibi. You were at least 10 miles away inside your own house when the murder happened. You also had an internet chat with the murderer himself.

    That does not, however, mean that you are not A murderer

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    In our own home alone and the chat was completely without witnesses. Ok I think we have a split personality disorder.
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    You have a log to prove it.

    THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE WHODUNIT PEOPLE, BUT HOWDUNIT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seon View Post
    You have a log to prove it.

    THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE WHODUNIT PEOPLE, BUT HOWDUNIT.
    That's pretty hard when you refuse to answer questions or even explain why you don't.
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    May I make a suggestion?

    You guys are thinking too laterally.

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