Oh really

[Fragony]

Slashing and burning, how about digging and mining. To make even 10% durable costs more than the earth has to offer. And oil isn't running out for a while (that was also a hoax, club of Rome)

edit: ROFL@Green party, according to these morally and intellectually superior carrotblitz-brigades terrace-heating should be VERBOTEN.

They are against 'warming up air'. Yes they actually said it. And this is not a religion gimme a break. Forgive me Gaia for I have consumed, watermelons, may look green but it's all red inside

[InsaneApache]

The warmists have been found out and they don't like it. A very hot summer? That's global warming. Three of the coldest winters on record? That's also global warming. Experiencing a drought? Proof of global warming. Flooding? Yep you guessed it, global warming.

Heads you win, tails I lose.

It's a scam. A rip off. A con trick.

It would be amusing if it wasn't having such a tragic effect on people. Here in the UK 30% of all fuel bills goes towards renewable energy. That's those windmills lads, the ones that actually suck electricity from the grid. It's estimated that upwards of 35, 000 people will freeze to death in the UK this winter. How many could have been saved if their fuel bills were reduced by 30%?

Then there's the hilarious retort that the science is settled. LMFAO. Science is never settled. Theories are discredited all the time. That's how it should be. Anything else is faith. Like the Great Pixie in the sky.

I understand the unwillingness to admit that you've been had. I too was conned along with the rest and it took me a long time to come to terms with it. I swallowed this guff for over twenty years.

Now I'm just as mad as hell at the bastards.

Governments love the issue because it provides a good excuse for more taxes, regulation and bureaucracy. Scientists love it because it provides grant money and subsidies, as well as fancy trips to exotic locales on someone else’s dime. Government bureaucrats love it for that too (actually, everyone involved loves it for that). Socialists love it because it shows the evils of capitalism. Environmentalists love it because it shows the evils of civilization. Religious leaders love it because it shows the evils of humanity. Statists love it because it seems to be a problem that can only be solved with a bigger state. Corporations love it because they can get government subsidies to pretend to invent “green” products that people can pretend will solve the non-existent problem. Guilt-ridden middle class liberals love it because it helps them to feel alive for a few brief moments before the emptiness returns. Celebrities love it because it gives them a feel good issue to advocate for in order to assuage their guilt over their own extreme wealth and lavish lifestyles. Pretty much every member of the political and intellectual class has a stake in this issue surviving, and so it probably will

Much more eloquent than I.

http://theemptiness.info/2010/12/hap...rming-is-over/

[Fragony]

'Turning back halfway is better than getting lost completely' as we say here. But it does keeps amazing me how people gob these lies up. Must be the very young age at which it all starts, and the suffocating social control when an individual is in doubt

[Fisherking]

So what happened to the ozone hole?

Is everything all better now?

[InsaneApache]

So what happened to the ozone hole?

Is everything all better now?

There's not enough money in it.

[Fragony]

So what happened to the ozone hole?

Is everything all better now?

Not really, we are all going to die IF WE DON'T ACT RIGHT NOW after all

[Beskar]

It would be amusing if it wasn't having such a tragic effect on people. Here in the UK 30% of all fuel bills goes towards renewable energy. That's those windmills lads, the ones that actually suck electricity from the grid. It's estimated that upwards of 35, 000 people will freeze to death in the UK this winter. How many could have been saved if their fuel bills were reduced by 30%?

Nothing to do with Climate Change. It is the privatization of the energy companies and them constantly trying to suck the money out of the population, by constantly rising prices while experiencing massive profits. It isn't anything to do with renewable energy either, since their biggest excuse is the price of oil.

[HoreTore]

....and how many could've been saved not just this winter, but all year long, if their income was increased by 30%?

But nah, let's not go for the obvious solution and give the poor more money.... Let's lower one of their expenses instead, while we increase the others, that way it'll look like we're doing something to help, thus giving us a clear conscience, while we don't have to raise their standard of living one bit. Yeah, that's what we should do!

[InsaneApache]

Nothing to do with Climate Change. It is the privatization of the energy companies and them constantly trying to suck the money out of the population, by constantly rising prices while experiencing massive profits. It isn't anything to do with renewable energy either, since their biggest excuse is the price of oil.

No it isn't. It's government policy. Do some research.

....and how many could've been saved not just this winter, but all year long, if their income was increased by 30%?

But nah, let's not go for the obvious solution and give the poor more money.... Let's lower one of their expenses instead, while we increase the others, that way it'll look like we're doing something to help, thus giving us a clear conscience, while we don't have to raise their standard of living one bit. Yeah, that's what we should do!

You should go on the stage, you're a laugh a minute.

[HoreTore]

How will reducing fuel bills by 30% stop a homeless man from freezing to death under a bridge?

[Fragony]

How will reducing fuel bills by 30% stop a homeless man from freezing to death under a bridge?

You offering him a place to sleep perhaps, but such humanity is strictly theory no. I actually do that

[HoreTore]

You offering him a place to sleep perhaps, but such humanity is strictly theory no. I actually do that

There are no homeless people where I live, I don't have the opportunity...

Socialist paradise and all that ya know

[InsaneApache]

How will reducing fuel bills by 30% stop a homeless man from freezing to death under a bridge?

Are you serious?

If he's homeless he won't have any bills to pay. Honestly.

[HoreTore]

Are you serious?

If he's homeless he won't have any bills to pay. Honestly.

.....yes...... that was kinda the point....so......how does your proposal to slash fuel bills by 30% do anything to prevent a homeless guy from freezing to death then?

Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to provide him with a place to live so he doesn't have to freeze to death outside?