This really has to stop

[Fragony]

Peope getting killed in a dictatorship. Who would've thought?

Who thould they should, it isn't just Egypt it's the whole Islamic world up to Indonesia. It's religious terror, and it's new.

[Yoyoma1910]

Who thould they should, it isn't just Egypt it's the whole Islamic world up to Indonesia. It's religious terror, and it's new.

While a tragedy, it's not really new. I mean what do you want, the Pope to call another Crusade? Those didn't help the first time.

[Fragony]

While a tragedy, it's not really new. I mean what do you want, the Pope to call another Crusade? Those didn't help the first time.

Acknowedging it and putting pressure would be a good start, these acts are completely ignored by gutmensch media and EU governments, too busy crying over the Palestinians

[Yoyoma1910]

Acknowedging it and putting pressure would be a good start, these acts are completely ignored by gutmensch media and EU governments, too busy crying over the Palestinians

CNN coverage

NPR coverage

BBC Coverage

France 24 coverage

It was the top story on France 24's website. The other news sites had links from their front pages. It's being covered, and politicians are making statements. That's what those two groups do: Make coverage and make speeches.

[Motep]

CNN coverage

NPR coverage

BBC Coverage

France 24 coverage

It was the top story on France 24's website. The other news sites had links from their front pages. It's being covered, and politicians are making statements. That's what those two groups do: Make coverage and make speeches.

Coverage? It is covered. Action? I think not

[Yoyoma1910]

Hosni Mubarak, whatever may be said of him ill or good, has been working to create an image of an Egypt that is stable and prosperous. I seriously doubt his government will do nothing about this.

[Fragony]

CNN coverage

NPR coverage

BBC Coverage

France 24 coverage

It was the top story on France 24's website. The other news sites had links from their front pages. It's being covered, and politicians are making statements. That's what those two groups do: Make coverage and make speeches.

Incidents are covered, not the structional nature of them reoccuring. Certainly not in the way other issues are highlighted. It really is new, while second rate citizens they were not unwelcome.

[Yoyoma1910]

Incidents are covered, not the structional nature of them reoccuring. Certainly not in the way other issues are highlighted. It really is new, while second rate citizens they were not unwelcome.

I don't understand how it can be new if it's reoccuring.


I mean in April of 2009 the government was killing off all the copt's pigs because of the fear of an epidemic.



And look, here's an article from 10 years ago:

World Ancient church struggles in Muslim Egypt

March 30, 2000

An excerpt from this CNN World article:

Tensions between Muslims and Christians erupted into violence in early January in the southern Egyptian town of Kosheh, leaving 23 people mostly Christians dead. While most Egyptians, both Muslim and Christian, condemned the killings, the incident raised concern around the country.

[Fragony]

I don't understand how it can be new if it's reoccuring.


I mean in April of 2009 the government was killing off all the copt's pigs because of the fear of an epidemic.



And look, here's an article from 10 years ago:

World Ancient church struggles in Muslim Egypt

March 30, 2000

An excerpt from this CNN World article:

Not talking new when talking in 10 years, new as in 80 years or so, just a tiny part of history. Fact remains that things have changed, these communities are really old, they were never hunted down in such a way. Isn't really that much to ask to treat non-muslims as we treat muslims here. Because we treat them as equals we can demand that from them as well.

About the pigs, that wasn't pretty, guess they really don't like pigs

[HoreTore]

Who thould they should, it isn't just Egypt it's the whole Islamic world up to Indonesia. It's religious terror, and it's new.

It's "people getting whacked in dictatorships".

It's as old as the sun.

Egypt is a dictatorship. A majority spending time killing off minorities will have less time to rebel against the dictators rule, thus a dictator will allow it. This is anything but new, it happens from time to time in most dictatorships. What do you think "dictatorship" means? "happy happy fun time"?

[Fragony]

It's "people getting whacked in dictatorships".

It's as old as the sun.

Egypt is a dictatorship. A majority spending time killing off minorities will have less time to rebel against the dictators rule, thus a dictator will allow it. This is anything but new, it happens from time to time in most dictatorships. What do you think "dictatorship" means? "happy happy fun time"?

It has nothing to do with Egypt being a dictatorship, you probably know that but just can't help yourself.

[Beskar]

It has nothing to do with Egypt being a dictatorship, you probably know that but just can't help yourself.

It is because they... are... Muslim!!!?

[Fragony]

It is because they... are... Muslim!!!

Well islamic terrorism is obviously done by muslims, incredible as that may seem to leftist people. But when you really think about it it isn't that illogical. I understand that that can't be right so it must be wrong nononoNO hands -> ears LALALALAA

[LeftEyeNine]

What's your solution to this Islamist intolerance, Fragony ?

[Fragony]

What's your solution to this Islamist intolerance, Fragony ?

Don't got one, who does?

[rory_20_uk]

What's your solution to this Islamist intolerance, Fragony ?

Some things have been done to make Islam less intolerant, such as female Imans in places such as Morocco.

Some of the harder ones would be to change rules on Muslims who change religion. If more muslim countries allowed other Churches to be built this would also help breed mutual tolerance.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

It has nothing to do with Egypt being a dictatorship, you probably know that but just can't help yourself.

To be fair, the phenomenon to which Hortore alludes is a valid point regarding dictatorships. Whether explicitly cultivated as in the Nazis or semi-happenstance as were the periodic Tsarist pogroms against Russian Jews, or the Japanese treatment of Koreans between 1925 and 1945, a dictatorship DOES benefit from having an out-group to pick on. This lets the lower echelon vent frustrations without endangering the elite. The concept is an old one, and is simply a variant on the circum side of the panem et circum recipe.

Doesn't make these episodes in Egypt any less "muslim v. non-muslim" but is worthy of factoring in when analyzing.