[Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [Concluded]

[ULC]

Good Job Samus, you I was totally recruitable by you. GO IDFH AND DARK SAMUS. I'd tell you more about how much you screwed yourself, but I'm not in the mood.

Whoever Samus is obviously and totally completely incompetent.

[Nightbringer]

LAME! Not really, but damn, I was looking forward to this game. Ah well, at least I got myself into MarioKart Madness, which still needs a few people incidentally...

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=414541 :) :0 :)
(hope the promotion is okay)
Good luck all, I hope you nail that stupid little electro crawler. XD

[ULC]

I officially accuse Winston Hughes of being Samus Aran.

GO TEAM DARK SAMUS.

[Csargo]

I was going to vote Beskar, but Vote:ATPG instead.

[Seon]

I was going to vote Beskar, but Vote:ATPG instead.

Why ATPG of all people?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why ATPG of all people?

That's only going to make it worse, you know. Csargo rarely gives a reason to vote for someone. I directed the lynch away from Tincow before he admitted what he was. It's a bad lead but it is still a lead.

Personally, I'd rather follow up on Flinchy McFlinchenstein, for his spastic response to pressure which was disproportionate for any townie, and him especially.

Vote: Nictel

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Pizza is scummy. Romanic is scummy. Beskar can wait. YLC is worth following on the winston thing.

Also: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Choxorn]

That's only going to make it worse, you know. Csargo rarely gives a reason to vote for someone. I directed the lynch away from Tincow before he admitted what he was. It's a bad lead but it is still a lead.

Personally, I'd rather follow up on Flinchy McFlinchenstein, for his spastic response to pressure which was disproportionate for any townie, and him especially.

Vote: Nictel

:nod:

[PershsNhpios]

Well, I am back from my holiday.

I had a few things to say on the previous day, and I was disapproving of the bandwagon on Nictel, but that's really all irelephant now.
Does anyone have an analysis on the situation yet? Since my ban I've lost touch a bit...
I am going to vote rather than spout suspicion, and that vote will be for the semi-lurking player I suspect most at this point:

Vote: landlubber

I'd also like to say at this stage that I am a basic townie - I will not say which camp because there may be vigilantes in this game, and considering my character I think it very unlikely that I will ever be more than a vote.
The only proof I can offer of that is that I was not removed from the game when banned - due I suspect to my role of little value.

[thefluffyone93]

Wait, when did the Mass Effect universe become apart of the Council series?
I thought-I AM ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL.
Lawl, couldn't help myself, I love Harbinger too much.
Anyways, I guess we can confirm we have either a pichu, pikachu, or a raichu
on board.

[Csargo]

That's only going to make it worse, you know. Csargo rarely gives a reason to vote for someone. I directed the lynch away from Tincow before he admitted what he was. It's a bad lead but it is still a lead.

Personally, I'd rather follow up on Flinchy McFlinchenstein, for his spastic response to pressure which was disproportionate for any townie, and him especially.

Vote: Nictel

SORRY, for not being a good enough lead for you ATPG

Nictel isn't a good choice imho. That reaction is what I would expect from someone being bandwagoned over TC.

[Winston Hughes]

Whoever Samus is obviously and totally completely incompetent.

I officially accuse Winston Hughes of being Samus Aran.

Is the only reason you think I'm Samus that you think Samus is 'obviously and totally completely incompetent'?

In any case, you're totally completely wrong. I'm not Samus, and I haven't killed anybody.

[ULC]

Is the only reason you think I'm Samus that you think Samus is 'obviously and totally completely incompetent'?

In any case, you're totally completely wrong. I'm not Samus, and I haven't killed anybody.

Whoever Samus is, is incompetent because a scan would have saved her the hassle - a lot of hassle. I accused you of being Samus due to how I died in the write up.

[Secura]

Whoever Samus is, is incompetent because a scan would have saved her the hassle

That can apply to Dark Samus in regards to me as well; it's ironic that we were both killed by the very factions that would probably have recruited us if they had just scanned first...

[johnhughthom]

In any case, you're totally completely wrong. I'm not Samus, and I haven't killed anybody.

Vote: Winston Hughes.

That's the sort of thing mafia say when they are trying to be clever. Probably.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote: Winston Hughes.

That's the sort of thing mafia say when they are trying to be clever. Probably.

unvote, vote:John

This is the kind of thing mafia say when they are trying to fake belief. And then hem and haw after typing it out and add "probably" because in their hearts they know it isn't genuine.

[Winston Hughes]

Why ATPG of all people?

Out of everything I've read today, this is the post that tweaks my scumdar the most.

Sasaki went after Seon yesterday, only to hop on the Nictel bandwagon when it became clear that it was the better bet for an alternative push. The behaviour which caught Sasaki's attention was pretty standard for Seon: he's usually flippant, never trustworthy, and only very rarely helpful to the town. He is, however, an experienced villain, whose typical behaviour allows him to avoid giving much - if anything - away. And while, as a townie, he's often utterly cavalier about his safety, when he's playing scum he is quite capable of adjusting that behaviour to improve his survival odds.

In this context, Seon's sole post today strikes me as an attempt to duck under the radar, and avoid a repeat of the previous accusation. He's changed up his behaviour, switching from irreverent to stealthy, and that is enough for me to...

vote: Seon.

That's the sort of thing mafia say when they are trying to be clever. Probably.

I volunteered information that has the potential to be falsified or verified at a later date. If it was a lie, then it'd be a stupid and unnecessary one. And, if and when it is shown to be true, even then it won't prove me to be town.

[Reenk Roink]

Hmm, I would suggest voting for Beskar this round for the alleged plot with TinCow thingy. Yeah you might hit a detective, but even so, Beskar will get pissed and it will be funny. It seems the most direct thing to do, plus the town can then move on from worrying about him.

I officially accuse Winston Hughes of being Samus Aran.

Why? I really wanted to kill WH though (Chaotix will explain in endgame), so I'm interested by this. Is it more than just rage.

Personally, I'd rather follow up on Flinchy McFlinchenstein, for his spastic response to pressure which was disproportionate for any townie, and him especially.

And later...

I disagree. I haven't ever seen Nictel react that way, in any game, anywhere, under any circumstances. I think you could lynch him ordinarily without him ever noticing. Especially since he didn't do anything but abstain until pressure was applied. I was already having doubts, which I uttered in-thread, until he exploded like I'd never seen before. He's no ordinary role, and I very sincerely doubt he's a town power role.

I didn't think his reaction was much at all. You keep characterizing it in some extreme way, but that seems really odd given the actual content of his posts.

I haven't played with Nictel ever (I think), but basing things on past behavior is a bad strategy because it can be changed and accommodated to, and it usually is. Having an idea of what town behavior is will also usually lead to destruction for much the same reason (unless it is something tied in with the mechanics of the game like killing people at night - and even that can be townie in certain games).

Pizza is scummy. Romanic is scummy. Beskar can wait. YLC is worth following on the winston thing.

Atpg I can actually make a case for by extrapolating the useless predicate you described him by. Romanic? Why can Beskar wait unless there is some 3rd party detective result? And even that might be just another buddy of his.

Well, I am back from my holiday.

I had a few things to say on the previous day, and I was disapproving of the bandwagon on Nictel, but that's really all irelephant now.
Does anyone have an analysis on the situation yet? Since my ban I've lost touch a bit...
I am going to vote rather than spout suspicion, and that vote will be for the semi-lurking player I suspect most at this point:

Vote: landlubber

I'd also like to say at this stage that I am a basic townie - I will not say which camp because there may be vigilantes in this game, and considering my character I think it very unlikely that I will ever be more than a vote.
The only proof I can offer of that is that I was not removed from the game when banned - due I suspect to my role of little value.

I was about to PM every remaining player in the game to kill you had you made one more reference to the Mafia glossary...

[ULC]

Why? I really wanted to kill WH though (Chaotix will explain in endgame), so I'm interested by this. Is it more than just rage.

Gut feeling based off of how I died. I was "left in a pot for tomorrow", a rather morbid and unreasonable way to die considering Samus's character. This is someone intentionally interfering with the write up, someone who is full of spite that I ruined their chances as passing off as pro-town. It also indictates someone who has played with me as a mafioso, most likely from the Murder Manor III game. I tend to write in rather morbid and horrific ways of killing people, and since I have been mafia 4 times, 2 times starting as mafia, then they would have had to have played with me to insert such irony.

I say Winston for now simply because of gut feeling, but anyone from Murder Manor III will do.

[Reenk Roink]

Gut feeling based off of how I died. I was "left in a pot for tomorrow", a rather morbid and unreasonable way to die considering Samus's character. This is someone intentionally interfering with the write up, someone who is full of spite that I ruined their chances as passing off as pro-town. It also indictates someone who has played with me as a mafioso, most likely from the Murder Manor III game. I tend to write in rather morbid and horrific ways of killing people, and since I have been mafia 4 times, 2 times starting as mafia, then they would have had to have played with me to insert such irony.

I say Winston for now simply because of gut feeling, but anyone from Murder Manor III will do.

Chaotix, do you do all the writeups or do players have input?

[pevergreen]

Vote: Glenn

Will be incredibly surprised if he is town

[Chaotix]

Gut feeling based off of how I died. I was "left in a pot for tomorrow", a rather morbid and unreasonable way to die considering Samus's character. This is someone intentionally interfering with the write up, someone who is full of spite that I ruined their chances as passing off as pro-town. It also indictates someone who has played with me as a mafioso, most likely from the Murder Manor III game. I tend to write in rather morbid and horrific ways of killing people, and since I have been mafia 4 times, 2 times starting as mafia, then they would have had to have played with me to insert such irony.

I say Winston for now simply because of gut feeling, but anyone from Murder Manor III will do.

NOBODY interferes with MY write-ups! NOOOOOBODY!

Actually, YLC, when I wrote your death write-up this was my thought process:
-Want wide-open space with possible cover.
-Therefore set in Mess Hall.
-Wouldn't it be funny if I dropped him in a stew pot at the end.

In actuality, if anybody wanted to put things into the write-ups I probably would let them, but it would only be for flavor (pun intended). And I will always be writing them myself and have the final say

I'm usually pretty creative, and though these write-ups take a lot of time to do, it is one of the things I most enjoy about hosting.

So the only useful things you'll find in the write-ups are:
-Obvious, bolded, brightly colored clues.
-Incredibly obscure clues that I intend for noone to get until I reveal them at the end of the game and look smart.

[Secura]

I got it!

I had a feeling that you would. :D

Anyways, if 'Hero' is a third town faction as Reenk believes (and Beskar inexplicably states) then my theory that Pikachu and Samus could be aligned might hold true after all.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I had a feeling that you would. :D

Anyways, if 'Hero' is a third town faction as Reenk believes (and Beskar inexplicably states) then my theory that Pikachu and Samus could be aligned might hold true after all.

I am almost certain Samus is the leader of the second mafia faction, as much as Dark Samus is the leader of the first. Samus is killing every night, in a pattern that doesn't match vigilantism. I will leave room for being incorrect on this, but I believe Samus can recruit certain GF people and make them part of her team. People like YLC, who she killed while not being a vigilante, but a mafia scum.

GF survivalists are Samus recruitment fodder. The symmetry is a bit on the nose, but also makes sense for game balance.

It's possible Samus is mafia and Pikachu/others are in a Hero faction. I may have missed the call on Hero being mafia, but I'm pretty sure Samus is, based on her rivalry with Dark Samus, who is recruitable but not by Dark Samus, and her kill pattern.

[Secura]

I was suggesting that Pikachu was Samus' scum buddy, and thus a mafiosi rather than a vig-killer... not that either of the two were aligned with the supposed 'Hero' town faction, which my post may have been interpreted as.

Just to clear that up.

[Ironside]

So the only useful things you'll find in the write-ups are:
-Obvious, bolded, brightly colored clues.
-Incredibly obscure clues that I intend for noone to get until I reveal them at the end of the game and look smart.

Judging from your nice colour coding, Beskar was attacked by a vigi. Probably Agent Tyrannosaurus Flex, unless Tincow got creative with the number coding. The choise of metroid music for a RE char is interesting though, not sure what to do with that.

Haven't figured out the colour coding on the victims yet. Looks to be random atm.

[TinCow]

The choise of metroid music for a RE char is interesting though, not sure what to do with that.

All mafioso have cover roles. All cover roles have a physical resemblance to the true character role. Who does an action-oriented human female resemble when you play Metroid music in the background?

[Diamondeye]

Seriously, Nictel? You're slipping.

GO GO WAGON PIZZA!!

Reluctantly agreeing with Sasaki and Csargo. Vote: ATPG.

I got it!

I didn't?

All mafioso have cover roles. All cover roles have a physical resemblance to the true character role. Who does an action-oriented human female resemble when you play Metroid music in the background?

... Samus?

[Ironside]

All mafioso have cover roles. All cover roles have a physical resemblance to the true character role. Who does an action-oriented human female resemble when you play Metroid music in the background?

I've considered that idea. The thing is that Jill Valentine is IDFH... And Samus pulling that on day one is stupidly risky. I think it refers to the defender, but I'm not sure.

Edit: The most bizzare one would be Dark Samus and interestingly enough, not impossible. Very unlikely, but not impossible. Beskar's hand was more pulled by the investigator than by his own choise in the scenario he has given.