[Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [Concluded]

[Cecil XIX]

I would have unvoted. WE'RE SURVIVALISTS.

Even if we weren't it's not like it was close vote. Besides, you'd think just being able to vote would be enough reason to want to remain alive. ATPG, don't you have any better hunches to follow?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Even if we weren't it's not like it was close vote. Besides, you'd think just being able to vote would be enough reason to want to remain alive. ATPG, don't you have any better hunches to follow?

Why are you relying on me? I'm willing to put out the effort to state reasons why I think people should die, and put pressure on people.

Others can also do this. The only reason why I end up leading people in games is because others do not bother. In fact, some of the few times someone else stepped up to the plate, I happily sat my butt on the sidelines and allowed them to lead without my interference. It's a nice change for me.

By all means, come up with your own suspects if you don't think mine are guilty.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I love being dead sometimes.

unvote, VOTE:RENATA

[Askthepizzaguy]

Also, I believe Glenn was banned during the time period of last night. He couldn't have sent orders in.

The wagon on Glenn makes no sense to me.

[Diamondeye]

Even if we weren't it's not like it was close vote. Besides, you'd think just being able to vote would be enough reason to want to remain alive. ATPG, don't you have any better hunches to follow?

That's not exactly the point; It's your duty to face that overdrive if you don't have anything special to defend. Whoever it hits, he cannot be less important than a vanilla townie. You can't just back off and let someone else do it, because if everyone did so, you guessed it, we'd never lynch the mafia.

Every vanilla townie voting against TinCow reduced the chance that he might hit something else in there, and I doubt the mafia were voting against him (they have a reason to stay out). What is wrong with this argument (which I also presented yesterday, I believe), since no-one seems to be following it?

[Reenk Roink]

That's not exactly the point; It's your duty to face that overdrive if you don't have anything special to defend. Whoever it hits, he cannot be less important than a vanilla townie. You can't just back off and let someone else do it, because if everyone did so, you guessed it, we'd never lynch the mafia.

No, it's actually more likely that his duty is like what every townie role so far has been, and that is to survive first and foremost. It is very reasonable for a townie to back off TinCow due to his threat, especially since his swag was really turned up that round.

And of course if EVERYONE backed off, the Mafia would never be lynched, but EVERYONE didn't back off, and it certainly didn't look like everyone was going to back off that lynch round. What Cecil did was very smart and absolutely reasonable as a townie.

Every vanilla townie voting against TinCow reduced the chance that he might hit something else in there, and I doubt the mafia were voting against him (they have a reason to stay out). What is wrong with this argument (which I also presented yesterday, I believe), since no-one seems to be following it?

This is a decent simplifying assumption, though obviously I think that there's a very high chance that people from the other Mafia family went ahead and voted for him.

[landlubber]

I haven't heard much from vote: Khazaar this game. I would post a more solid case, but I forgot how to look at who posted.

[Diamondeye]

I haven't heard much from vote: Khazaar this game. I would post a more solid case, but I forgot how to look at who posted.

Click on the number (around 760 atm) after "replies:" instead of the thread title in the Gameroom lobby..?

[Beskar]

Since Glenn is banned, I will change vote...

unvote; vote: Thefluffyone

Only mafia use abstain votes.

[Ironside]

Also, I believe Glenn was banned during the time period of last night. He couldn't have sent orders in.

The wagon on Glenn makes no sense to me.

I know that you're aware of the hive mind situation with strongly allied teams (like mafia), making it perfectly possible for mafia partners to cover for a short absense of a player. You've allowed me to do that in both games I've played with you as the host.

Might've been a too quick conclusion from your side, but still.
Vote:ATPG

[classical_hero]

Also, I believe Glenn was banned during the time period of last night. He couldn't have sent orders in.

The wagon on Glenn makes no sense to me.

How do you know that Chaotix could have gotten the kill order from a QT? (I see that Choxorn spotted this out also) Under such circumstances it might be possible. But assuming you are right I will unvote

Right then it does seem the trail has gone cold. Hopefully I should be able to make a vote tonight after my colonoscopy, but just in case, my vote right now is vote:abstain just in case I don't fell well enough to get a proper vote in, but hopefully that does not happen.

[Yaropolk]

Folks, as it has been pointed out, Beskar claims ATPG has been cleared by investigator, Beskar is Jill Valentine, so probably not a mafioso , and Glenn was banned last night. I encourage those voting for those 2 above to switch your vote to one of the other lose contenders (Jareema, Beefy or FrozenInIce)

[Sasaki Kojiro]

The top candidate has like 5 votes. We can lynch anyone.

[pevergreen]

Beskar is Jill Valentine, so probably not a mafioso

FoS: Yaraopolk

Pointless, and defending comment.

All we know about cover roles is that TC's looked exactly like his real role. Could be a one off, could not. Anything else is unknown.

[Cecil XIX]

Why are you relying on me? I'm willing to put out the effort to state reasons why I think people should die, and put pressure on people.

Others can also do this. The only reason why I end up leading people in games is because others do not bother. In fact, some of the few times someone else stepped up to the plate, I happily sat my butt on the sidelines and allowed them to lead without my interference. It's a nice change for me.

By all means, come up with your own suspects if you don't think mine are guilty.

I'm not asking you to name names for me, I'm asking for a yes or no: Can't you think of better suspects to go after then Jarema and Nictel?