A Discussion on the necessity of the Rebellion and portrayal of the Galactic Empire

[Prussian to the Iron]

ugh, im too tired to respond right now. tomorrow though.

[CBR]

ugh, im too tired to respond right now. tomorrow though.

Take all the time you need.

But I would say that if you want to bring in all material, which is perfectly fine since it apparently is canon, then the link you provided does create a different picture of who Palpatine was and his reasons for doing what he did.

So when I base my opinion purely on the movies we won't be able to reach any consensus as we use a different set of sources.

So perhaps it would be better to simply agree to disagree.

[Prussian to the Iron]

Well I intended on using just the movies, but I already knew that Palpatine had to have a reason, and I even stated prior to my seeing that article that he would have foreseen attacks from without, causing a large buildup of Imperial military. I just used that to reinforce it.

[Strike For The South]

This is why none of us get laid

[CBR]

This is why none of us get laid

Or the result of not getting laid. There is that annoying causality stuff again...

[Greyblades]

This is why none of us get laid

Well with that attitude your definitely not getting laid.

[Strike For The South]

Or the result of not getting laid. There is that annoying causality stuff again...

lol, Chicken or the egg

[Hax]

All this talk on fertilisation makes me want to spend some time alone.

[Ironside]

Well I intended on using just the movies, but I already knew that Palpatine had to have a reason, and I even stated prior to my seeing that article that he would have foreseen attacks from without, causing a large buildup of Imperial military. I just used that to reinforce it.

He's part of an organisation that have tried to wipe out the Jedi order in thousands of years. To maintain proper treason levels within this organisation, they've decided to use the rule of two for about 1000 years.

Be one dude, with one apprentice, disband the main governing body and you'll need quite a big army to control your new empire.

There's also that tiny point of that you don't need to be a grand ruler to ensure that there's warnings about the threat and cause a military build up. In particular when being a master manipulator. It's the equivalent of justifying a spy master to become dictator because he predicted a war.

[Greyblades]

Except this was a republic with no standing army untill he was in power, somehow I doubt palpatine exactly would want to trust those people to win a galaxy scale war.

[Prussian to the Iron]

Except this was a republic with no standing army untill he was in power, somehow I doubt palpatine exactly would want to trust those people to win a galaxy scale war.

True. A state the size of the Republic could not have survived any serious invasions without a standing army. Relying on clones all created on one planet for all of your security needs is not a safe bet. A standing army recruited and payed aka the Stormtroopers and Imperial Navy? Definitely more stable and reliable.

[Greyblades]

I'm not sure if they even had a standing army in the period between kotor and attack of the clones.

[Megas Methuselah]

True. A state the size of the Republic could not have survived any serious invasions without a standing army. Relying on clones all created on one planet for all of your security needs is not a safe bet. A standing army recruited and payed aka the Stormtroopers and Imperial Navy? Definitely more stable and reliable.

Wait, let's stop here for a second. Before the Clone Wars, the Republic supposedly had no standing army. It was with the Clone Wars that Palpatine came to power, and it was with the Clone Wars that the military build-up of the Republic/Empire truly began. There's nothing quite wrong with relying on a huge Clone Army. Did the similarities in uniforms and equipment between the clone and imperials ever strike you as... odd? The clone troops were the roots of the imperial military forces.