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    Misconceptions? i wuld be more surprised if anyone has actually heard about us....

    Anyway, it was a genuine question, not a sarcastic remark or anything like that. It would be interesting to hear an americans view of how he believes european media coverage of america is... Of course, I have no personal knowledge of the coverage outside Norway, I have no idea what the media further down the continent says.
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    Misconceptions? i wuld be more surprised if anyone has actually heard about us....

    Anyway, it was a genuine question, not a sarcastic remark or anything like that. It would be interesting to hear an americans view of how he believes european media coverage of america is... Of course, I have no personal knowledge of the coverage outside Norway, I have no idea what the media further down the continent says.
    I wasn’t trying to treat it flippantly but it is seriously complex. Events are covered from different points of view. You seldom see both sides of an issue. Same old thing you hear about American media only covering from a left stand point except it is more complex than that.

    Here in Germany at times you get a more conservative view but the other side is still lacking.

    You could also draw the conclusion that conservative whacked out churches are all you find and that is not so either. They just make a great deal of noise at times.

    People there are often concerned about issues we generally don’t hear about, except maybe here in the back room.

    And as you can see Americans tend to have a limited view of the world. That is not necessarily their fault directly but more a product of the insulation of their media.


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    But is this particular to America?

    Or is it how foreign nations are usually covered? Examples:

    Does our media coverage reflect the massive support in Chna for the communist party? Or the overwhelming Russian support for Putin? Have we seen many stories about the positive sides of those two regimes? There is a reason for their massive support, and it aint all fear...

    What about the Balkans? The main western covage of the conflict is that the Russian-backed Serbs are Satans little helpers, and that they are the eternal evil while everyone else is a victim. How accurate is that view?

    What about the European extreme right? Seen any other viewpoints than the usual negative one?

    What about all the postives in Africa? 90% of the news from Africa are about negative subjects like wars, starvation, aids and poverty. Yet most of the continent is moving in the right direction, why isn't this reflected in the media coverage?

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    Still it has wider coverage in Europe than in America. I doubt if many of them hear anything on African immigration or anything but Mexican immigrants for that matter.

    However I do have to agree with some of your points. Just because some of us are aware of the issues it doesn’t go for most of the population.


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    our media coverage” It is only Media Coverage, not only; Media are in fact followers or their Societies prejudices. Or what their owner told them to sell in order to make money, or to facilitate an election of their favourite etc…
    E.g. not too far: We all know why the road to Paris is lined with trees. (by the way it was to stop the peasants to bite on and cultivate little bit by little bit the road)...
    Not Glenn’s fault as such, he just repeats what he was told by media turned in propaganda machine…
    And the usual intellectual laziness, the lack of interest in real information and the attraction of a good joke and you just insulted without really knowing 90.000 brave French soldiers dead in fighting the Germans in may and June 1940.
    And the fact that he doesn’t know any French means it is not really offensive to someone important for him…

    It is difficult to know who start what. If the media didn’t sold what we are interested, they won’t publish or broadcast the result of these prejudices.
    But they exacerbate the prejudices. That is true for the un-employed, all presented as leeches, all immigrants as illegal or coming just to exploit the system that of course is the envy of the World, and I can carry on for pages.

    So, if somebody makes a comment that contradicts the main stream, that just illuminates as a flash the usual picture.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.

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    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
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