Norwegian Of The Year 2010

[Greyblades]

seriously you want to be "Proud" of subjugating various peoples and countries all over the world, often denying them the access to material goods of there own country etc etc you get the idea.

What I want? I want to be proud of the fact that we used to have an empire that spread around the world, that could smash any other nation into the dirt one on one. What I want is to live in a country that doesn't instantly think of racisim when the words national pride are utterd and doesn't consider at one point being the most influential nation of all time an embarrassment! I dont want to be part of a nation that gets most of its media from a flag waving nation and doesnt wave its own flag because of a bunch of racist bigots put a stigma on it because they used it in a poxy rally! [rant contines for several pages but I'll spare you them]

tl:dr : my country sucks in comparison to the old days and doesnt even want to aknowlege it.

Good god, I just realised, I want to be an american.

[gaelic cowboy]

What I want? I want to be proud of the fact that we used to have an empire that spread around the world, that could smash any other nation into the dirt one on one. What I want is to live in a country that doesn't instantly think of racisim when the words national pride are utterd and consider at one point being the most influential nation of all time an embarrassment! I dont want to be part of a nation that gets most of its media from a flag waving nation and doesnt wave its own flag because of a bunch of racist bigots put a stigma on it because they used it in a poxy rally! [rant contines for several pages but I'll spare you them]

tl:dr : my country sucks in comparison to the old days and doesnt even want to aknowlege it.

Good god, I just realised, I want to be an american.

I got news for you my good man your country sucked in the good old days too or the rest of the world would not have been so happy to kick ye out.

By all means be proud of individual achievements like the the steam engine etc etc but I am afraid you cant separate the racist element from much of Britains achievements as an empire.

By the way I laugh at your assertion that english people are not patriotic and don't wave there flag they do

[Greyblades]

...You realy dont know what you are talking about do you?

[gaelic cowboy]

...You realy dont know what you are talking about do you?

Actually I bet I know more about the dangers of flag waving than you ever will

[Strike For The South]

Actually I bet I know more about the dangers of flag waving than you ever will

Yes the constant Hellmans and Heinz battle has torn the relam of mayo apart for decades now

[gaelic cowboy]

Yes the constant Hellmans and Heinz battle has torn the relam of mayo apart for decades now

sep 2003 to jan 2011 I was wondering how long it would take to see that joke on the org

[Greyblades]

Uh huh, you really do know nothing about the british empire.
Ahem.

[Strike For The South]

Uh huh, you really do know nothing about the british empire.

Racist and exploitative come to mind

To harken back to the days where you kept 1 billion people under your jackboot is an odd thing, your time in the sun is only that way becuase you're being held up by the billions of African and Asains who humanity you stripped

[gaelic cowboy]

Uh huh, you really do know nothing about the british empire.

My country and it's politics is still shaped by our relationship to your country, just like the moon causes the tide.

My family is still shaped by our early part in the independence struggle, which many members suffered greatly for.

have you guessed where I'm from yet

[Greyblades]

have you guessed where I'm from yet

No and I dont much care.

but I am afraid you cant separate the racist element from much of Britains achievements as an empire

We were the first country to end the slave trade we even went to the trouble of invading france's and other colonies to preven them from shipping slaves to america. In fact our golden age was well after the fact. The only reason we didn't help the confederates secceed from the US was because they had slaves.
To be frank, when the world was racist we started the whole acceptance thing off. Now we dont even get a blasted T-shirt.

By the way I laugh at your assertion that english people are not patriotic and don't wave there flag they do.

I live here I look out of my window and I see no flags, I go to london the only flags are on government buildings. The only time we do get flags out is for football and even then its the george cross not the Union Jack.

Racist and exploitative come to mind

see above

To harken back to the days where you kept 1 billion people under your jackboot is an odd thing, your time in the sun is only that way becuase you're being held up by the billions of African and Asains who humanity you stripped

As were the french and the spanish and the dutch and even the poxy belgians. You say jackboot but I realy have to point out that in comparison to all the other empires of the world we may not have been the best but we sure as heck wornt anywhere near the worst.

[HoreTore]

Update:

The courts released her today. The government-instructed prosecutor appealed the decision, however, and Maria remains in Trandum concentration camp.

The former minister of Justice, Anne Holt, and the leader of the lawyer assocation has today said that:
1. There are legal grounds for Maria to stay. There is no reason to change any laws to allow her to stay.
2. The law does not exiest to treat us all equally. The law is designed to treat us unequally, or in other words, to take into account the different sitiuations we find ourselves in.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Where have I made any serious suggestions that I live in a dictatorship, Louis...?

Down below, my good man:

Update:

The courts released her today. The government-instructed prosecutor appealed the decision, however, and Maria remains in Trandum concentration camp.

That's what I mean. You may try to see an actual concentration camp, that you may tell the difference with a Norwegian intitute of incarceration.

And I'm not sure public prosecutors are directly instructed by the Norwegian government either.

[HoreTore]

Down below, my good man:
That's what I mean. You may try to see an actual concentration camp, that you may tell the difference with a Norwegian intitute of incarceration.

And I'm not sure public prosecutors are directly instructed by the Norwegian government either.

The prosecutor appealed because he was instructed to do so. There is nothing extra-ordinary about that. You're confusing instructing prosecutors, which is OK and kinda mandatory in cases like this, with instructing judges or defense attorneys, which is what they do in dictatorships.

As for Trandum: it is a camp where immigrants are put so we can have them all at one place, ie. to concentrate them. What else can you then call the place? Is it Auswitzch? No, but auswitzch was an extermination camp. Norwegian Prisons are like heaven compared to prisons in the Congo, for example, but does that mean I can't call Norwegian prisons "prisons"?

[Louis VI the Fat]

I got news for you my good man your country sucked in the good old days too or the rest of the world would not have been so happy to kick ye out.

THATS RIGHT WE TEXANS KICKED THE ENGLISH OUT OF TEXAS IN 1776

[Greyblades]

Uh forgive me if I'm wrong but wasnt texas a part of mexico at the time?

[Strike For The South]

Uh forgive me if I'm wrong but wasnt texas a part of mexico at the time?

Spain

[rory_20_uk]

A Spanish territory.

[gaelic cowboy]

seriously dude smoking is bad for you does the org have any rules on secondhand smoke in the workplace for the moderators??