I just got robbed

[Strike For The South]

I AM A TOUGH GUY IN REAL LIFE TO :anger:

[Vladimir]

I've had this idea already, I'm not short on brutal ideas and fantasies, had he used the needle he would have ended up dead with a cracked skull(a bit of a MAD situation), the only problem is if I want to stay alive and out of jail, most of these ideas aren't very useful, albeit very entertaining.

Yea, but a little fantasizing about revenge is healthy so as long as you don't end up in handcufs.

[Strike For The South]

Yea, but a little fantasizing about revenge is healthy so as long as you don't end up in handcufs.

But what if that's how I want my fantisies to end up?

[Vladimir]

But what if that's how I want my fantisies to end up?

Sorry. Didn't see that angle at first.

[Husar]

Are tazers legal where you live?

Unfortunately not, it seems the ones that were legal, where you have to contact the other person, were mostly or completely outlawed lately.

Yea, but a little fantasizing about revenge is healthy so as long as you don't end up in handcufs.

Indeed.

UPDATE:

Well, it's hard to believe, but as I had almost forgotten about him and started to think of other things since he shouldn't show up at work(where I was headed), he was in the subway door that I wanted to enter!
I saw him briefly, got a shock and tried to get into the next door so I wouldn't have to walk past him(think of the needle! ) but the driver had already locked the doors and drove off (see, I didn't want to run away, I just didn't want to confront him directly, which would have been unavoidable had I gone into the first door).
I called police anyway and shortly after my call the boards announced that the trains may run up to 20 minutes late due to a problem (ooops, I got a taste of POWER there... ).
I was supposed to wait for police but since my description was bad and I wasn't on the train to keep police updated they called me again and said the thing was off, too vague.
Well, I was 15 minutes late for work and that was it for today.
Given that he is such a frequent subway user, I guess it won't take too long to get him, weekend will be spent with the parents anyway.

[Vladimir]

Good. It looks like you're taking action.

If the police need a better description tell them it's the guy laying on the sidewalk with a blow to the back of his head. 2 X 4 > needle

[Greyblades]

Oh please. That is so uncivil; a nail gun is the right way to go. Quick, clean and if its powerful enough you can stick him to a wall and not worry about staining the carpet.

[Vladimir]

Oh please. That is so uncivil; a nail gun is the right way to go. Quick, clean and if its powerful enough you can stick him to a wall and not worry about staining the carpet.

Well, this is one of my heroes:

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[Fisherking]

Looks like your avatar with whiskers

[Husar]

UPDATE:

As I wanted to go to work today, he was strolling along the street right in front of the house I live in, to make it short, he went across the street, I went a block further, called police while peeking around the corner to keep an eye on him and in the end he got arrested.
I had to go near and identify him of course, then went to work.
I guess the police will update me on what happens next but the policeman already said he's definitely a heroin addict.

[Vladimir]

Outstanding. Good to see you were diligent and that he was arrested.

[Husar]

Even better, I just went past him across the street...

[Beskar]

The Police service surely got soft in the last 70-80 years.

[Strike For The South]

Why have you not beaten the tom out of him

SRSLY

When we meet for the big ORG jambaree and cookout I'm going to take all your stuff

[Vladimir]

Why have you not beaten the tom out of him

SRSLY

When we meet for the big ORG jambaree and cookout I'm going to take all your stuff

Have we settled on a location then? I didn't see it in last week's meeting notes.

[Husar]

Why have you not beaten the tom out of him

SRSLY

I thought I already addressed this, he has needles, I beat him up, I accidentally hit his needle, I get HIV and prison time because 20 people saw me going up to him and beating him up...

What exactly did I gain then?

[Strike For The South]

I thought I already addressed this, he has needles, I beat him up, I accidentally hit his needle, I get HIV and prison time because 20 people saw me going up to him and beating him up...

What exactly did I gain then?

They chances of you getting HIV are infentecimal

[Louis VI the Fat]

I thought I already addressed this, he has needles, I beat him up, I accidentally hit his needle, I get HIV and prison time because 20 people saw me going up to him and beating him up...

What exactly did I gain then?

What you gain is his beating heart, still warm, in your right hand raised at the gods.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Just walk away man. Just walk away.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I thought I already addressed this, he has needles, I beat him up, I accidentally hit his needle, I get HIV and prison time because 20 people saw me going up to him and beating him up...

What exactly did I gain then?

Husar, surely thousands of years of civilization has not been wasted on you. Man invented tools; use them! A bat will keep you at a comfortable distance from any needles, and his head at a comfortable distance to a hard, fast moving object. As to the second part, follow him until he goes into an alley and then commence your salutions.
(I am, of course, kidding).

And by this:

Even better, I just went past him across the street...

Do you mean he's already been let out on bail or something?

Seriously - you should ask the police if they have any info on him having HIV.

CR

[Fisherking]

I think you will find that the modern German male is not nearly as aggressive as you might think.
This is the one place you will find that the cops out number the criminals about 10 to 1.
There seems to be police behind every bush and lamp post, except in this one case when he needed them.
It is likely you can find more crime in Ardmore, Ok than you can in Essen, Germany or any other city in the country for that matter...except maybe Hamburg...
The man was very likely shocked that he even saw a criminal, let alone twice.
To him it may have been like finding a space alien in his bath tub. It just doesn’t happen!

[Sarmatian]

AFAIK, police can potentially track every mobile phone. The problem is, at least in Serbia, is they don't want to do it usually, because it takes time, monitoring and waiting for someone to actually switch it on.

If it can be done in Serbia, I can't possibly imagine that it couldn't be done in Germany.

[Husar]

Husar, surely thousands of years of civilization has not been wasted on you. Man invented tools; use them! A bat will keep you at a comfortable distance from any needles, and his head at a comfortable distance to a hard, fast moving object. As to the second part, follow him until he goes into an alley and then commence your salutions.
(I am, of course, kidding).

I got pepper spray, it's only legal to carry it for use against animals but apparently you can use almost anything legally for self defense. The problem with melee weapons is if someone more experienced and stronger, perhaps even more than one guy, than him comes I might end up being subjected to my own weapon unless I take extensive training.

Do you mean he's already been let out on bail or something?

Seriously - you should ask the police if they have any info on him having HIV.

I have no idea, I thought they wanted to call me but if they won't I will call the detective working on the case later today before I go to work.

I think you will find that the modern German male is not nearly as aggressive as you might think.
This is the one place you will find that the cops out number the criminals about 10 to 1.
There seems to be police behind every bush and lamp post, except in this one case when he needed them.
It is likely you can find more crime in Ardmore, Ok than you can in Essen, Germany or any other city in the country for that matter...except maybe Hamburg...
The man was very likely shocked that he even saw a criminal, let alone twice.
To him it may have been like finding a space alien in his bath tub. It just doesn’t happen!

There's some truth to that though, at least from my POV.
While I heard a lot of people saying the police won't do anything, they're useless, typical that they let him go etc. this was the first time someone threatened me in such a way and I've walked through the city at night and encountered strangers at night before.
Women are rather afraid at night anyway, I never really was, that changed a bit now, but not that I am planning to never go out at night again.
Most of the policemen I talked to were very friendly, I tend to take their motto very seriously and try my best to work with them, it's not they who make the laws and if they illegally beat a suspect into a bloody pulp just because I said he's a criminal, would that really be better?

AFAIK, police can potentially track every mobile phone. The problem is, at least in Serbia, is they don't want to do it usually, because it takes time, monitoring and waiting for someone to actually switch it on.

If it can be done in Serbia, I can't possibly imagine that it couldn't be done in Germany.

It can, but it's not pinpoint accurate, the cellphone provider people told me that it would simply cost too much and the policeman I talked to about it said there is an even bigger problem:
The guy has most likely already sold it the same night, so someone else has it now(think fingerprints on it change etc., how to prove the robber ever had it?). Then you can track it to a certain building, say an eight family house, now what? Which flat are you going to search? Do you think any judge would hand out eight search warrants knowing that seven are affecting "innocents" just to find a cellphone that was insured anyway?

More likely, he said, is that some day during a routine traffic control or a raid or so they will find some cellphones, check their IMEI numbers and find the one of my stolen phone among them, of course the then-owner of the phone will have to explain how he got the phone but that's not something I'm particularly interested in right now.
Finding the phone was only really interesting to save my data(probably deleted by now) and prove that the guy robbed me (probably impossible by now).

What seems more likely is that if he robbed others they may chime in now that the police knows who he is and then it's not just me vs. him, but I have no idea yet, may ask the police later.

[Odin]

1st how the hell did you become a moderator?

2nd, you handled it perfectly. Life can turn on a dime Hussar and cell phones can be replaced. Its wonderful for those protected by the anonimity of the web to tell you to grow a pair etc (how couragous of them) but what you need to do is be honest with yourself. You arent a confrentational person and therefore you put yourself in the best possible position to garnish a postive outcome. Had you become violent and physical you would have been playing to your weaknesses.

The important thing is to always be honest about what you can and cant do. I would have handled it differently but I am a different person. Best advice I can give you is to find alternative routes home and carry some kind of protection like pepper spray or mace (do they allow that in germany?). Its not wimpy or pathetic to use protection, its the complete opposite, bold and competent because it speaks to your understanding of yourself.

Good luck out there kid.

Oh and since its me and since you are a mod now I have to say something gruff and sarcastic (image is important). -hurr durr you chicken , KICK HIS !-

[Husar]

1st how the hell did you become a moderator?

The .org press gang knocked on my door one day...

2nd, you handled it perfectly. Life can turn on a dime Hussar and cell phones can be replaced. Its wonderful for those protected by the anonimity of the web to tell you to grow a pair etc (how couragous of them) but what you need to do is be honest with yourself. You arent a confrentational person and therefore you put yourself in the best possible position to garnish a postive outcome. Had you become violent and physical you would have been playing to your weaknesses.

The important thing is to always be honest about what you can and cant do. I would have handled it differently but I am a different person. Best advice I can give you is to find alternative routes home and carry some kind of protection like pepper spray or mace (do they allow that in germany?). Its not wimpy or pathetic to use protection, its the complete opposite, bold and competent because it speaks to your understanding of yourself.

Thanks.
I got pepper spray now and am willing to use it should anyone confront me again (it's only legal to use against humans in self defense, otherwise only allowed against animals).
I am the very definition of de-escalation usually, and in all seriousness, it's partly because I am afraid that once I do go all-out, I may end up in jail myself for manslaughter or assault or whatever and that would obviously ruin my life just as well. I wouldn't usually kick someone I'm angry at until I can run, I would kick them until they bleed or don't move anymore, yes, I've kicked a person who fell onto the ground before.
Don't mistake my usually kind nature to think that I'm incapable of horrible acts of violence, all it means is that I have my inner devil under control and know better than to respond violently to every little provocation or risk my life for minor things, that's how I see it.
That's not to say I want people to look at me as a violent person, but remember that quiet waters are deep or something like that.

Good luck out there kid.

I'm 25...and trying hard to act older.

Oh and since its me and since you are a mod now I have to say something gruff and sarcastic (image is important). -hurr durr you chicken , KICK HIS !-

That's what I expected you to say but I was VERY pleasantly surprised.

And now to what I came to post anyway:

UPDATE:



I just called the detective, the guy has already racked up quite a few robberies, he robbed the lottery store which is right across the street from my window, he robbed another store etc.
The only thing they're waiting for is an arrest warrant from the state attorney and then they'll get him and lock him up, in fact he said he's going to call them next week and tell them to hurry up a bit.
(I'm laughing because apart from the fact he doesn't seem to give a ****, he seems really dumb and actually less scary now)

So yeah, the guy is going to jail for a while and I'm not. I sent the papers to the insurance yesterday, so the phone should be replaced.

[Fisherking]

Some times it is just a shame there are no longer bounty on varmints.


...ding, ding €50



Oh, okay, not really.

[Vladimir]

1st how the hell did you become a moderator?

Post reported. Death to the Old Gods!

[Kagemusha]

I only saw this now.Husar i think you handled this perfectly for yourself with the options you had.You didnt got hurt and the guy was caught. Also now that you own a pepper spray you are more prepared if something similar happens later on. If a junkie threatens you with a needle there is no sense starting a fist fight if you can get HIV as a trophy from it.Its better to live on with this experience,rather then die on aids.Next time with the pepper spray you have more options like showering that possible muggers eyes with the spray while releasing a healthy kick to the genital area afterwards, which should release a phone from anyones hand. Then you can call the police to pick up the mugger while you acted on self defense.

[Odin]

The .org press gang knocked on my door one day...



Thanks.
I got pepper spray now and am willing to use it should anyone confront me again (it's only legal to use against humans in self defense, otherwise only allowed against animals).
I am the very definition of de-escalation usually, and in all seriousness, it's partly because I am afraid that once I do go all-out, I may end up in jail myself for manslaughter or assault or whatever and that would obviously ruin my life just as well. I wouldn't usually kick someone I'm angry at until I can run, I would kick them until they bleed or don't move anymore, yes, I've kicked a person who fell onto the ground before.
Don't mistake my usually kind nature to think that I'm incapable of horrible acts of violence, all it means is that I have my inner devil under control and know better than to respond violently to every little provocation or risk my life for minor things, that's how I see it.
That's not to say I want people to look at me as a violent person, but remember that quiet waters are deep or something like that.


I'm 25...and trying hard to act older.


That's what I expected you to say but I was VERY pleasantly surprised.

And now to what I came to post anyway:

UPDATE:



I just called the detective, the guy has already racked up quite a few robberies, he robbed the lottery store which is right across the street from my window, he robbed another store etc.
The only thing they're waiting for is an arrest warrant from the state attorney and then they'll get him and lock him up, in fact he said he's going to call them next week and tell them to hurry up a bit.
(I'm laughing because apart from the fact he doesn't seem to give a ****, he seems really dumb and actually less scary now)

So yeah, the guy is going to jail for a while and I'm not. I sent the papers to the insurance yesterday, so the phone should be replaced.

I dont doubt you are capable of violence, most humans are I have seen it first hand and am guilty of it. You did the right thing for yourself, good show. Also, Im still 15+ years your senior so thats why I call you kid, I wont be around much to make the mistake over again. Last, I forgot how much this place sucked in terms of moderation. Thankfully it didnt take long to remember, its like seeing an ex girlfriend, its cool for the first few minuted but you realize very quickly why you broke up with them.

Cheers Husar

[Husar]

So today I testified in court, not sure whether I'll hear what became of it, they offered me to stay but I rather went home, was a long procedure anyway I think, I think it was the only "case"(everything this guy did) in that room for the whole day...

Which kind of closes this story for me I guess.
Just thought I'd necroclose the thread this way.
And tell you that the justice system in Germany is finally working.

Oh yeah, I doubt I could help a lot as I couldn't say what he had in his hand, but I stuck to the truth of course.