Europe and the Rest of the World - A Military Analysis

**Vuk** · 01-28-2011, 01:14

Originally Posted by Centurion1

England has good troops. Australians make good soldiers. The Germans military mind set was ruined to some extent after losing two world wars but they have (or at least used to) have a militaristic culture. spain is a joke. Norway has decent soldiers as does finland

England has some potential for good soldiers and citizens. Australia has a lot (quite possibly a lot more than the US does). The Germans are a joke. The French are pathetic. Spain is ruined. etc.
I gotta disagree with you about Norway. I have a lot of Norwegian heritage, and such they hold a special place in my heart, but I think it would be generous to say that they have a little potential.

**Centurion1** · 01-28-2011, 01:16

they have a good military and a mandatory draft.

**Vuk** · 01-28-2011, 01:17

Originally Posted by Centurion1

they have a good military and a mandatory draft.

Who?

**Centurion1** · 01-28-2011, 01:18

and you are doing the same exact thing. you think life in finland is easy? or poland? life in America is easier than anywhere else (unless your retired in western europe)

Edit: norway

**Vuk** · 01-28-2011, 01:22

Originally Posted by Centurion1

and you are doing the same exact thing. you think life in finland is easy? or poland? life in America is easier than anywhere else (unless your retired in western europe)

Edit: norway

I never said that life in Poland was easy. Life in most of Eastern Europe is very hard. Trust me, I know how lucky I am to be American. Life in Norway though is nothing compared to the hell that life in a 3rd world South American country is. Norway has a good military system and enough good citizens to keep it working, but I still think that you are over rating them. Eastern Europe, South America, and most of East Asia are probably amongst the hardest places to live on earth.

**Centurion1** · 01-28-2011, 01:25

africa..... middle east....

look western militaries are top dog not only because of technology but because of what our values are . the reason the middle east has (excuse me) such crappy militaries after the medieval period is because they do not know how to respect subordinates or delegate authority. there are numerous essays on this. besides turkey they are all worthless as fighting forces.

**Greyblades** · 01-28-2011, 01:23

Ok then I'm obivously tired and I'm going to bed soon but I will ask afew questions:

Do you know any Europeans? Face to face instead of inside a forum? What about our potential soldiers, have you met one? How about our millitaries, have you got some special access to our recruiting figures? Our medical records? Specifically our reports on the viability of new recruits? Have you gotten some information that indicates what you are saying?

In other words: Do you know what you are talking about?

**Vuk** · 01-28-2011, 01:27

Originally Posted by Greyblades

Ok then I'm obivously tired and I'm going to bed soon but I will ask afew questions:

Do you know any Europeans? Face to face instead of inside a forum? What about our potential soldiers, have you met one? How about our millitaries, have you got some special access to our recruiting figures? Our medical records? Specifically our reports on the viability of new recruits? Have you gotten some information that indicates what you are saying?

In other words: Do you know what you are talking about?

I have been to several European countries, been on military bases (in Europe and the US), befriended many Europeans, read lots of research, seen lots of news...yeah, I do think I know what I am talking about.

**gaelic cowboy** · 01-28-2011, 01:45

Originally Posted by Vuk

England has some potential for good soldiers and citizens. Australia has a lot (quite possibly a lot more than the US does). The Germans are a joke. The French are pathetic. Spain is ruined. etc.
I gotta disagree with you about Norway. I have a lot of Norwegian heritage, and such they hold a special place in my heart, but I think it would be generous to say that they have a little potential.

France has no potential fo breeding soldiers, would this be the same France with bases all over North Africa and plenty youth unemployment, I bet the french army has no problem recruiting stout lads.

Germany is no joke that is plain for all to see.

Spain, I recall reading recently they had a new recruitment drive and it was easily oversupplied.