Re: Concerning the great worries about the self defence capabilities of Europeans.
If I was feeling facecious I'd say americans, so that my more valuable euro troops are put to better use than guard duty.If you had to have an identical number of either Euro or American military personnel guarding you with the same equipment, who would you choose?
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Re: Concerning the great worries about the self defence capabilities of Europeans.
lol, Sorry Greyblades, but I hardly believe that you are being honest...are you? :P
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Re: Concerning the great worries about the self defence capabilities of Europeans.
Thank you Kag! This is an actual analysis and not just a bunch of unsupported assumptions.
The question on troop quality is interesting. Is a volunteer who does so only to get a solid paycheck and get his or her college paid for more or less combat effective than a draftee?
I think it is a double edged sword. People who volunteer for the Marines, Rangers, or any of the other more 'elite' units are definitely looking for action and would thus be expected to have better morale and fortitude than a draftee. However, those who join the regular units and support services for economic reasons shouldn't be assumed to be more motivated than a common draftee.
I would say the volunteer aspect gives the US an overall edge over other militaries, but the effects are not evenly distributed throughout the services.
Re: Concerning the great worries about the self defence capabilities of Europeans.
Undecided.lol, Sorry Greyblades, but I hardly believe that you are being honest...are you? :P
Apart from the fact that I dont agree with the idea, I cant realy commit to it becuase you are asking if you prefer one continent of people over another. Now, if you asked if I believe that a Swiss could do better than a Texan then I might be more able to answer. But there are too many different types of europeans and americans to make a proper choice.
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A German Soldier from Munich vs. a U.S. Marine from Texas. How is that? (And Germans are probably on average quite a bit better than other European soldiers, so I think that is fair.
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Terrain?
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Don't feed the trolls!
Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
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lol, this is not MY thread, nor is it in the same spirit as my thread. I am a troll because I am attacked by a troll and fire back?
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Re: Concerning the great worries about the self defence capabilities of Europeans.
When people think of best fighting forces, they make comments like "Israel", "British SAS" and then the German equivalent or the French Foreign Legion. I never heard anyone say "Americans".
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Re: Concerning the great worries about the self defence capabilities of Europeans.
Also, could anyone please point out how these two threads differ from unzipping our pants and measuring?
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Re: Concerning the great worries about the self defence capabilities of Europeans.
Because if we are dealing with the Norwegian military we at least have something to measure.
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Re: Concerning the great worries about the self defence capabilities of Europeans.
Yeah, there is nothing to measure in one about the American military.Because if we are dealing with the Norwegian military we at least have something to measure.
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Re: Concerning the great worries about the self defence capabilities of Europeans.
This is more an enough proof of the old saying "loud talker, small ...."Because if we are dealing with the Norwegian military we at least have something to measure.
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