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    Default Re: Randroids: Where Is Your God Now? Ayn Rand Accepted Social Security and Medicare

    She had ideas about stuff which can (and have been) criticized. Her own faults aren't what make her ideas bad, and focusing on her is an ad hom argument.

    And, given the content of her theories, criticizing her for hypocrisy seems like a weak option, similar to criticizing bin laden for something other than terrorism (I tried for like a minute to think of a good example and got tired, but it works ok).

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    Default Re: Randroids: Where Is Your God Now? Ayn Rand Accepted Social Security and Medicare

    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    She had ideas about stuff which can (and have been) criticized. Her own faults aren't what make her ideas bad, and focusing on her is an ad hom argument.
    So by this logic, if a man who spends his life lecturing on child safety and development turns out to be a serial pedophile, this is irrelevant and ad hominem? We should take his ideas of childhood at face value? Please.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    And, given the content of her theories, criticizing her for hypocrisy seems like a weak option, similar to criticizing bin laden for something other than terrorism
    She wrote at length about the evils of charity and public welfare. She posited that taking from the productive and giving it to worthless peopel such as widows and war veterans was parisitism and derisible. She preached selfishness as the ultimate good. So you don't see any connection, and cognitive dissonance between her accepting public welfare at the end of her life and her entire life's work? Really? Don't be coy.

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    As is often true, it is far easier to attack the messenger than the message itself. In this case, it is much simpler to obsess over the finances of an old lady than address her points, which become more and more prescient as America's unfunded entitlement obligations balloon.

    This is an interesting example of the insidious nature of entitlements, though. One is almost always put at a social disadvantage by not taking them, thus ensuring their growth. If everyone is getting their healthcare paid for by the government and putting that money into investments, how long can the ideologically opposed hold out? The results are clear enough - massive unfunded entitlements that cannot be touched by elected officials as everyone is on the dole.

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    Default Re: Randroids: Where Is Your God Now? Ayn Rand Accepted Social Security and Medicare

    So..... Its actually the interest that's killing you, not the government programs?

    Raise the tqxes then. Its your patriotic duty to buy your country back from the chinese.

    Cutting spending is nonsensical, why on earth should the challenged of today pay because yesterdays rich didn't care to think about paying for what they've bought? If that's not a scam, I don't know how else to define the word.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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