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    There are some errors/missing units in the vanilla "deadpage coords" file causing that about 1/4 of the units don't leave dead bodies. I saw a topic about it somewhere and prepared one for myself. You can download it here. As you mentioned, it works with vanilla and your mod too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gollum View Post
    That's good to know. Iirc, i deleted them once and the game crashed :)
    Strange. I too have removed the extra lines, and the game works just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stazi View Post
    There are some errors/missing units in the vanilla "deadpage coords" file causing that about 1/4 of the units don't leave dead bodies. I saw a topic about it somewhere and prepared one for myself. You can download it here. As you mentioned, it works with vanilla and your mod too.
    Are you sure that a whopping 25% of vanilla units have no dead bodies? That would be a serious bug. Could you, off the top of your head,
    give some examples of the units that are affected? I would much appreciate it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Durango View Post
    Are you sure that a whopping 25% of vanilla units have no dead bodies? That would be a serious bug. Could you, off the top of your head,
    give some examples of the units that are affected? I would much appreciate it.
    Check the duel Jobbagy vs Spanish Jintes. Organ Gun crew doesn't even have an entry in the deadpage file. All these units (and many others) don't leave bodies. Game engine looks for the right body in the deadpage file but when it encounters any error it stops looking further. That's why good, innocent units are affected too. Maybe it's not a serious bug but most of the people like to see the proofs of their hard work lying around the battlefield .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stazi View Post
    Check the duel Jobbagy vs Spanish Jintes. Organ Gun crew doesn't even have an entry in the deadpage file. All these units (and many others) don't leave bodies. Game engine looks for the right body in the deadpage file but when it encounters any error it stops looking further. That's why good, innocent units are affected too. Maybe it's not a serious bug but most of the people like to see the proofs of their hard work lying around the battlefield .
    Heh, that's shoddy of CA to let slip...

    Well, all units in XL have dead bodies at least (checked), but I haven't seen any posts by either Vikinghorde or Tyberius
    that proclaims fixing this issue. Good work nonetheless, the Caravel mod deserves to be as polished as possible.

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    When someone creates new units, he simply has to make proper deadpage file. Some of the mods (like Hellenic, Napoleon) go step further and give their own dead256 file with new dead bodies graphics (e.g. destroyed chariots, guns).
    IIRC, to be sure if all units leave bodies you only need to check last unit from the unit_prod and last from the deadpage. If they leave bodies, all others do too. The right solution for the issue was announced by Barocca about 2004.
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    Hahaha, if you were in the mob, your nickname would be "Deadman" by now

    If you want dead bodies, Stazi is the man...

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    It's good to know that the extra lines are deletable, thank you Durango. I'll try again, when i pick the mod again.

    Stazi, thank you for this information, i have noticed that certain units did not give out dead bodies but... i thought it was an engine quirk :) not that CA did not specify them. If it is a fraction of dead bodies from every unit it's possible that it had to do with performance perhaps and they wanted to keep it low.

    Whatever the case, thank you for making me aware of this, i would most certainly like to include it in the next version, and i'll pm you eventually in due time.

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