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**phonicsmonkey** · 02-11-2011, 00:25

Also I forgot this rule:

- No fighting losing defensive battles on purpose in a besieged city, just to deny the invader the sacking option.

I am guilty of this in many games but I think that rightly it should be banned...

**GeneralHankerchief** · 02-11-2011, 00:30

As a quick clarification, "surround-and-destroy" refers to the practice of occupying every single (occupy-able) tile adjacent to an enemy agent with an army regiment and then moving one additional regiment into that agent's actual tile. Since the agent has nowhere to go, it's "killed".

I'm going to have to think of some other way to combat Tristan's legendary agent warfare...

**phonicsmonkey** · 02-11-2011, 00:40

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

As a quick clarification, "surround-and-destroy" refers to the practice of occupying every single (occupy-able) tile adjacent to an enemy agent with an army regiment and then moving one additional regiment into that agent's actual tile. Since the agent has nowhere to go, it's "killed".

I'm going to have to think of some other way to combat Tristan's legendary agent warfare...

Yes that's it.

Importantly it also refers to the practice of engaging an enemy army or navy in battle without leaving an 'escape tile'. If you surround an enemy army on the campaign map and leave no escape a defeat will wipe out the stack completely leaving no survivors.

The exception to this rule is if the enemy has deliberately placed themselves in such a position and the only way you can attack is to leave them no escape.

Fight agents with agents! Use spies to defend your generals against assassins and use your own assassins to hunt down and kill the enemy's. In CotF we had the mother of all agent wars ranging across Anatolia and into Iraq which ended with a massive plague spread (at first accidentally) by infiltrating spies. Happy days..

**Cecil XIX** · 02-11-2011, 07:39

I'll take the Byzantines.

**phonicsmonkey** · 02-11-2011, 07:39

Originally Posted by TosaInu

Edit: I should be at 1.5, can you please open my savegame to test all is ok? Attachment 1063

works for me!

**Cecil XIX** · 02-11-2011, 07:52

Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey

wow, this is turning into an org vets game!

Yeah, a bunch of veterans and me. 'Last of the Romans' indeed...

**phonicsmonkey** · 02-11-2011, 07:57

We just need one more player, not two, then I'll start the game.

Tosa, are you sure you don't have a preference between Turkey and Egypt?

**Nightbringer** · 02-11-2011, 09:00

I'll join in as #5, it looks like whats left are Turks/Egypt so I think I'll say Egypt. Although I am honestly fine with any of the factions

**phonicsmonkey** · 02-11-2011, 13:10

I started the game in a new thread here, Antioch is up

Let me know if you want a diplomacy and story thread and I can set those up too, or feel free to do it yourselves.